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Old 04-23-2009, 08:52 AM
 
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A place that isn't too big, but not smaller than Pittsburgh.

Has to be affordable.

Will be done spring 2011.

Thoughts?
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Old 04-23-2009, 09:01 AM
 
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Let's clean this up a little. Define "too big" and "affordable".

Pittsburgh is #60 in population. Assuming, say, anything over a million is too big, that gets rid of the top 9 cities (NYC through Dallas).

That still leaves 50 cities.

What are you looking for in a place?
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Old 04-23-2009, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Philly
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Philly
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Old 04-23-2009, 01:34 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Philly, Cincinnati. Cleveland if you're OK w/ the snow. Philly is the best option; it's more expensive but not crazy like other big cities like NY or Chicago.
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Old 04-23-2009, 11:19 PM
 
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There are a limited number of cities bigger than Pgh. that is also in the same price range as it.
Saint Louis
Denver
Minneapolis
Detroit
Atlanta
Cleveland, Cincinnati and Kansas City are slightly smaller than Pittsburgh.
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Old 04-23-2009, 11:48 PM
 
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Cleveland, Cincinnati and Kansas City are slightly smaller than Pittsburgh.
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All three are bigger than Pittsburgh, based on 2007 estimates, and only Cincinnati was smaller in 2000.
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Old 04-24-2009, 12:12 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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It's called metropolitan area. It is typically a more accurate determinant of a city's size; and Pittsburgh is 22nd by MSA.

Anyway...to the OP; though it depends on what you define as "too big", I'll wager you'd think Philly is a bit overwhelming. It is the cheapest in Bos-Wash, but it's also the second largest in the Northeast. Baltimore isn't outrageously priced; but if you're looking for real cheap...well, there's always Detroit.
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Old 04-24-2009, 12:39 AM
 
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It's called metropolitan area. It is typically a more accurate determinant of a city's size; and Pittsburgh is 22nd by MSA.

Anyway...to the OP; though it depends on what you define as "too big", I'll wager you'd think Philly is a bit overwhelming. It is the cheapest in Bos-Wash, but it's also the second largest in the Northeast. Baltimore isn't outrageously priced; but if you're looking for real cheap...well, there's always Detroit.
It's called WHAT? METROPOLITAN AREA!!?!?!?!?! NEVER HEARD of such a thing!

Thanks for the lesson, there, pal.

And I don't really agree that a metro area number is a more accurate reflection of a city's size. It's a more accurate reflection of a metro area's size, and that may or may not mean a larger or more vibrant central area.

Either way, I was looking for Minnehahapolitan to clarify his/her numbers.
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Old 04-24-2009, 09:41 AM
 
Location: SF and Atlanta
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It's a more accurate reflection of a metro area's size, and that may or may not mean a larger or more vibrant central area.

Suppose you didn't know anything about Boston, for example, and I told you the city had 600,000 people without also telling you how many people lived in Greater Boston. Suppose I then told you that there were 716,00 people in Charlotte and 1.3 million people in San Antonio, without telling you how many people live in those metro areas. Do you think that with just that information, you'd draw accurate deductions about those cities' relative importance and/or density?

A city's metro area population gives you far more information than a city's population.
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Old 04-24-2009, 09:51 AM
 
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Suppose you didn't know anything about Boston, for example, and I told you the city had 600,000 people without also telling you how many people lived in Greater Boston. Suppose I then told you that there were 716,00 people in Charlotte and 1.3 million people in San Antonio, without telling you how many people live in those metro areas. Do you think that with just that information, you'd draw accurate deductions about those cities' relative importance and/or density?

A city's metro area population gives you far more information than a city's population.
Yeah. I know. It's a more accurate reflection, sometimes. Atlanta is another good example.

However, I was just trying to get some clarification on Minnehahapolitan's numbers and you snarky turds jump all over me like any of this is something I don't know. I'm aware that MSA numbers can be a bigger indicator, but since M'politan didn't say "metro" or "MSA" or anything like that, I was just a little confused on his numbers.

That's all.

Jog on.
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