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I wouldn't call drug and gang violence random to be honest when it occurs between said people. When living that life, that come with the territory and such persons shouldn't be surprised.
It is random in that it can happen on any street corner on that side of town at any time day or night, even at a church. A friend my daughter had during high school lost her half-brother to drug violence. That was the closest to home that this type of horrible violence ever came, and I never saw it coming. This girl had been at many sleepovers at my house and she was truly devestated. Many people who are killed are killed at very unexpected times, not necessarily during a "meeting". Man could be sitting in his car about to back out of the driveway and bam...bullet in the back of the head. But I see where you're coming from, it definitely comes with the territory.
1. The geographical limits of political entities, (cities, counties) do not correspond to cultural divisions, so crime can often spill over from one entity to another without reflecting the reality.
2. When a city cracks down on crime, the "crime rate" goes up, because there is more reporting of the crimes that do take place, and the numbers do not get fudged as readily.
3. Areas that have a lot of tourists or other visitors will always have high crime rates, because the number of people in the city (potential criminals) is substantially higher than the permanant population, which is used to calculate the crime rate.
It is random in that it can happen on any street corner on that side of town at any time day or night, even at a church. A friend my daughter had during high school lost her half-brother to drug violence. That was the closest to home that this type of horrible violence ever came, and I never saw it coming. This girl had been at many sleepovers at my house and she was truly devestated. Many people who are killed are killed at very unexpected times, not necessarily during a "meeting". Man could be sitting in his car about to back out of the driveway and bam...bullet in the back of the head. But I see where you're coming from, it definitely comes with the territory.
true, my neighbors son was shot 3 times in the chest not to far from my house, think he was drug dealing not sure.
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Originally Posted by jtur88
Three reasons in particular.
1. The geographical limits of political entities, (cities, counties) do not correspond to cultural divisions, so crime can often spill over from one entity to another without reflecting the reality.
2. When a city cracks down on crime, the "crime rate" goes up, because there is more reporting of the crimes that do take place, and the numbers do not get fudged as readily.
3. Areas that have a lot of tourists or other visitors will always have high crime rates, because the number of people in the city (potential criminals) is substantially higher than the permanant population, which is used to calculate the crime rate.
3, not true, in miami they down play crime, certain crimes they put as a lesser extent. sometimes they dont even report them.( police)
I think thats what jtur88 is talking about, somebodymiami.
I don't really get #3 either though: so a more permanent population = less crime or just less people = less crime? Or both.
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The weird thing to me is that on the one hand I like neighborhood maps because they seems more specific and point out where INSIDE THE MSA OR CITY the crime is taking place (great for showing police where they need to concentrate)...on the other hand, neighborhood maps, like city boundaries, can be altered and fudged to affect the statistics.
Also, thanks for pointing out the ways murder rates can be 'smudged' 9thecity9...I'd never heard of that angle.
I figured it up for Chicago, and roughly 75% of the murders take place in neighborhoods with 25% of the population, while 25% of the murders happen in areas with 75% of the population. 80% of murder vicitims this year so far have been black, and 90% male.
25% of the population lives in areas with a murder rate of 45/100,000
75% of the population lives in areas with a murder rate of 5/100,000
People say "ohh, Chicago, aren't you afraid living there with all the crime???". Well yeah there's a lot of murder and crime in Chicago, but not really MY Chicago. If I went 100 blocks south I'd probably be much more worried.
1. The geographical limits of political entities, (cities, counties) do not correspond to cultural divisions, so crime can often spill over from one entity to another without reflecting the reality.
2. When a city cracks down on crime, the "crime rate" goes up, because there is more reporting of the crimes that do take place, and the numbers do not get fudged as readily.
3. Areas that have a lot of tourists or other visitors will always have high crime rates, because the number of people in the city (potential criminals) is substantially higher than the permanant population, which is used to calculate the crime rate.
But areas like tourist areas like hollywood only have about 30 homicides a year versus areas like South Central that have around 160-200 . Im sure the crime as a whole is higher in those areas as well . it all depends . Now if we're talking about a tourist driven spot like Las Vegas it would be a different story . Becuase im sure there is a large amount of crime done in Vegas not done by residents of Vegas
But areas like tourist areas like hollywood only have about 30 homicides a year versus areas like South Central that have around 160-200 . Im sure the crime as a whole is higher in those areas as well . it all depends . Now if we're talking about a tourist driven spot like Las Vegas it would be a different story . Becuase im sure there is a large amount of crime done in Vegas not done by residents of Vegas
I think it also has to do with the fact that people can sense who the outsiders and visitors are. So, it makes them a target for some. It's like the saying of not looking up at the buildings in NYC because it would give that person away as a visitor.
I think it also has to do with the fact that people can sense who the outsiders and visitors are. So, it makes them a target for some. It's like the saying of not looking up at the buildings in NYC because it would give that person away as a visitor.
I dont know about LA but NYC is crime stat juicing capital.
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