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Old 06-05-2009, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Twilight zone
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Actually, I think crime will move further out(if that is what you are talking about) due to things like gentrification, the tearing down of low income housing projects and in turn, having a reversal of migration in terms of metro areas. It is happening already and some examples are with Prince George's County MD inside of the Beltway, some cities in the Bay Area and even in cities like Portland OR and Buffalo NY. This is will vary depending on how much impact the gentrification occurs, but it is happening.
ya, i learned about this in a sociology class. There's area called the Zone in transition and basically it was used for slum housing but experts on the subject predicted that white/middle class people would take it back. I dont want to write a whole essay about this so if anybody is interested its right here

zone of (or in) transition - History of zone of (or in) transition | Encyclopedia.com: Dictionary of Sociology (http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1O88-zoneoforintransition.html - broken link)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_school_(sociology)
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Jackson, MS
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While the "stats" show that certain crimes in Atlanta have dropped, there have been increases in other crimes that involve gangs/kids using guns to rob/burglarize people. We are in the middle of several higher-profile crimes right now where groups of heavily armed thugs will rob people (sometimes groups of people) in broad daylight, even shooting the person(s) who comply with their demands. What was once a nervous kid with a hand BB gun are now kids with AK47s and large SUVs.

Prediction: As time goes on, people will begin to migrate out of many of the larger cities and back to Exurbs or suburbs that are much further out than before, if their occupations will allow for it. A reversal of trends in many areas that have gone on for a long time. At some point (when? 10 years, 25?) there will come a time where youth crime is SO bad, the Federal Government will have to step in with some sort of Federal Police force to "take back" many cities from the criminals. Sounds almost like a sci-fi movie, but I honestly DO think that one day it will come to this.

We now have kids as young as 13 and 14 participating in home invasions, car jackings, and even rapes here. It's not an everyday news story, but it was a completely foreign concept a few years ago, and now does happen more and more frequently. So what will we see when the NEXT generation of street kids grow up? Gangs of 8 years olds with semi-automatics roaming the streets taking out random people because the ice cream truck is late and they're bored? No one is really addressing this problem, from any level of Government to community leaders, so it will get worse, and they will get younger.

Yep - times are gonna get very interesting to say the least (Thunderdome theme song in background).
Regardless of crime stats, the majority of Generation Y and some of Generation X are law abiding citizens and crave an urban renewal lifestyle. The cities will begin to grow faster than they have before, but it will remain constant with the growing suburbs (because babies are much more likely in the burbs than in the city).
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:41 AM
 
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Actually, I think crime will move further out(if that is what you are talking about) due to things like gentrification, the tearing down of low income housing projects and in turn, having a reversal of migration in terms of metro areas. It is happening already and some examples are with Prince George's County MD inside of the Beltway, some cities in the Bay Area and even in cities like Portland OR and Buffalo NY. This is will vary depending on how much impact the gentrification occurs, but it is happening.
I agree with your assessment. As the middle class re-populates the cities, the low income groups will be forced economically to move to less expensive digs, which will be the suburbs and exurbs. A good harbinger is San Francisco. The city's residents are more wealthy on avarage than those in many of the city's suburbs. Much of it due to the skyrocketing cost of housing in the city. European cities have long been this way.
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:59 AM
 
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You have to find that report for me. I find that interesting, because I saw an article about crime from NYC moving into the Pocono Mtn. region of PA.
The report I saw was on a KC TV station. No known link to the story. But here's one I came across while doing some research on the subject.

RURAL CRIME UP; URBAN DOWN
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Old 06-05-2009, 01:32 PM
 
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I agree with your assessment. As the middle class re-populates the cities, the low income groups will be forced economically to move to less expensive digs, which will be the suburbs and exurbs. A good harbinger is San Francisco. The city's residents are more wealthy on avarage than those in many of the city's suburbs. Much of it due to the skyrocketing cost of housing in the city. European cities have long been this way.
Exactly....For instance, the "hoods" in France are outside of the cities, not within them.
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Old 06-05-2009, 01:33 PM
 
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The report I saw was on a KC TV station. No known link to the story. But here's one I came across while doing some research on the subject.

RURAL CRIME UP; URBAN DOWN
Interesting article......Even Maine is feeling this. Man.....
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Old 06-05-2009, 03:41 PM
 
Location: New England & The Maritimes
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Interesting article......Even Maine is feeling this. Man.....
ya, holy ****! 30-something murders! In Maine's case I think it just coincidental. It's not like these murders were part of a massive crime wave in Maine.
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Old 06-05-2009, 03:50 PM
 
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ya, holy ****! 30-something murders! In Maine's case I think it just coincidental. It's not like these murders were part of a massive crime wave in Maine.
I know, but it's Maine though.
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