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Old 06-15-2009, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Omaha
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This thread which originally asked a good thoughtful question has now digressed to the standard South/Christian bashing. Do you ever see any Christians on here bashing people for not praying before a meal or any other time for that matter -
you do not. These posters wouldn't feel comfortable with the US Senate either, because they begin every session with prayer. If someone praying in their own home before a meal is the complaint you decide to write about on here, that's very petty. Should they complain if they go to your house and you don't pray before you eat - they would feel just as uncomfortable, but it's always the Christian who has no consideration or tolerance.
Wheres the bashing? We simply said we felt uncomfortable. No different than stating "I'm in a bad mood". Lighten up.
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Old 06-15-2009, 03:52 PM
 
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Peace be to you. And also with you. Then people say peace and shake hands with those around them.

It's fairly new. They never used to do that years ago.
New, really? It's always been done as far as I know, and that's more decades than I like typing, much less saying.

I have to admit that being a Californian I'm really way more comfortable being in California. Or actually, all the way up and down the West Coast from San Diego to Vancouver, Canada. When I lived out of state I could at times feel acutely judged, as some representative of this otherplace, this "California", though that was also going from a large city to a smaller town. Of course, I relaxed about it and sometimes it was in my own head, for sure. I am only an individual, after all. But then a stray snide comment from someone would bring it screaming about again. This unwanted ambassadorship had few perqs; it was certainly hidden as best I could hide it. It was when I was with fellow Californians that we could just spontaneously...relax...like we were free for the moment from what we were perceived to be, that not every gesture or comment was meant to be reflective of my somehow totalizing "California"-ness, whatever that was (I'm still not even sure).
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Old 06-15-2009, 04:41 PM
 
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I love the traditional culture of my home and current state, California. That culture is a very down to earth, middle class, rural / cowboy culture. Sadly, since my state has been taken over by carpetbaggers and non assimilated immigrants, the traditional culture is fading away. So, after spending over 40+ years here, I may have to try and find somewhere else I'll be comfortable. I have my eyes on two areas - the southern plains / Llano Estacado, and, the Fall Line of the SE US. Wish me luck!
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Old 06-15-2009, 04:54 PM
 
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You can put your head down, think about the weather, your mortgage payment, whatever, and nobody will know the difference. You just be quiet and show respect to your host who invited you into their home. If it really bothers you, don't go back anymore.

As I said in another post, in a public professional circumstance that is a different matter.
Good advice. I think that those of us who are not religious can certainly be tolerant of little traditions like the mealtime blessing. My family had a standard one that we said before each meal...I never even thought of it as religious - just as something that we always did, kind of like celebrating Christmas or saying "God bless you" when someone sneezes. Blessing a meal is really an ancient Jewish tradition, but is common in many world cultures. In addition to being a long-standing Christian practice, Islamic grace before meals is customary. So this is TRULY not a "North vs. South" discussion.

More good advice on how to act:

"If one is not religious and the rest of the table is saying grace, it is considered to be polite and culturally appropriate to quietly observe or just bow one's head. It is often considered impolite or incorrect to start eating before grace has been said and completed."
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Old 06-16-2009, 05:58 AM
 
Location: Kentucky
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Great post and I completely agree!
Thank you.
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Old 06-16-2009, 05:59 AM
 
Location: Kentucky
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Ahem, if its MY house and MY food, I'll say grace with or without company at the table. My house, my rules.
If visiting, I'll quietly drop my head in a short, silent prayer over my meal. Nobody is expected to go along with it.

If my host/hostess disapproves of my doing so, there's a simple solution. Dont invite me again.
Absolutely!!!! Great post hon!
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Old 06-16-2009, 06:00 AM
 
Location: Kentucky
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How about when your coworker carries around the bible when he walks around the office, and has their desktop full of bible quotes on a corporate computer?
Or how about the overly religious coworker, who has been told by management he can get a raise if he gets a certification, but opts out because he doesn't believe in non religious forms of education.
Welcome to the deep south.
And?
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Old 06-16-2009, 06:02 AM
 
Location: Kentucky
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They had this weird singing thing followed by hugs and handshakes for everyone sitting near you.
My church does that too, it's called "welcoming"
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Old 06-17-2009, 12:36 AM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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Wheres the bashing? We simply said we felt uncomfortable. No different than stating "I'm in a bad mood". Lighten up.
I think referring to someone's religious practices as "freaky" constitutes bashing.
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Old 06-17-2009, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Omaha
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I think referring to someone's religious practices as "freaky" constitutes bashing.
Ah, maybe it is and I used the wrong word for it. It's "freaky" or "uncomfortable" (to me).
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