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Old 06-06-2009, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Sanford, FL
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Not just bad food, horrendously bad food. I'd rather starve in Africa than eat what they eat in the UK.
When did you last eat in the UK? I'm guessing the guided bus tour didn't allow much freedom to explore?
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Old 06-06-2009, 08:42 PM
 
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I'm sure Turkey is first world.

Keep fooling yourself with bs "data". Why don't you get on a plane to Istanbul and see how "first world" it is. Idiot.

Oh, and I'm sure nations like Kuwait, Qatar, and UAE and Brunei Darussalam are "third world" while Cuba is second world!
Thank you for illustrating how little you even understand about that delineation in the first place. And how laughable it is to refer to Nordic countries as "Third World".

1st, 2nd, and 3rd worlds indicate ideological alliances, not human development or standard of living. For that, there's the Developed world and "Developing" world. And Noway, Sweden, and the Netherlands are a part of the former.
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Old 06-06-2009, 08:43 PM
 
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Ummm, my previous post mentioned 12 with higher quality of life scores than us. I'd say a toss up between Sweden, Norway, Denmark and Ireland.

I don't feel the need to be number one, that's what most mouth-breathing Americans feel the need to be for whatever reason. I'm fine with "Yay..we're number 13".

Apparently you have an inferiority complex and need to use skewed logic and "fact" to make your point. It's not working.
Danes, Norwegians, and the Irish may think they are living the high life when responding to these studies. You know, living in a bathroom sized house, paying incredible taxes, eating bad food, being utterly irrelevant in world affairs but inferior nations have lower standards.
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Old 06-07-2009, 11:32 AM
 
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No genius, it's actually fact. Using real life numbers and methodology.
Facts are so...inconvenient.... aren't they?


The Economist Intelligence Unit’s quality of life index is based on a unique methodology that links the results of subjective life-satisfaction surveys to the objective determinants of quality of life across countries. The index was calculated in 2005 and includes data from 111 countries and territories.

The survey uses nine quality of life factors to determine a nation's score[1]. They are listed below including the indicators used to represent these factors:

Health: Life expectancy at birth (in years). Source: US Census Bureau
Family life: Divorce rate (per 1,000 population), converted into index of 1 (lowest divorce rates) to 5 (highest). Sources: UN; Euromonitor
Community life: Dummy variable taking value 1 if country has either high rate of church attendance or trade-union membership; zero otherwise. Source: World Values Survey
Material well being: GDP per person, at PPP in $. Source: Economist Intelligence Unit
Political stability and security: Political stability and security ratings. Source: Economist Intelligence Unit
Climate and geography: Latitude, to distinguish between warmer and colder climates. Source: CIA World Factbook
Job security: Unemployment rate (%.) Source: Economist Intelligence Unit
Political freedom: Average of indexes of political and civil liberties. Scale of 1 (completely free) to 7 (unfree). Source: Freedom House
Gender equality: measured using ratio of average male and female earnings. Source: UNDP Human Development Report
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Rank Country or territory Quality of Life Score
(out of 10)
1 Ireland 8.333
2 Switzerland 8.068
3 Norway 8.051
4 Luxembourg 8.015
5 Sweden 7.937
6 Australia 7.925
7 Iceland 7.911
8 Italy 7.810
9 Denmark 7.797
10 Spain 7.727
11 Singapore 7.719
12 Finland 7.618
13 United States 7.615
14 Canada 7.599
15 New Zealand 7.436
16 Netherlands 7.433
17 Japan 7.392
18 Hong Kong 7.347
19 Portugal 7.307
20 Austria 7.268
21 Taiwan 7.259
22 Greece 7.163
23 Cyprus 7.097
24 Belgium 7.095
25 France 7.084


Of the 30 richest countries comprising the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, the U.S. has the greatest proportion of children living in poverty. Despite spending more money per capita on health care than any other country on the planet, the U.S. ranks 42nd globally in life expectancy.

U.S. infant mortality ranks 34th globally, according to the OECD report. If the U.S. were able to achieve an infant mortality rate as low as top-ranked Sweden, 20,000 more babies would survive here each year.
Moderator cut: see comment I was taking your side, professor.

Last edited by Bo; 06-11-2009 at 10:20 PM.. Reason: I explained this in a DM.
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Old 06-07-2009, 12:14 PM
 
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All third world countries in my opinion. They get taxed at incredible levels and they all live in houses the size of my refrigerator.
If Sweden, Denmark and Norway are "third world" then what does that make countries like Iraq and Zimbabwe??
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Old 06-07-2009, 12:15 PM
 
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Who's number one if it's not America?
I'm sorry, but China could easily overthrow America as the economic powerhouse.
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Old 06-07-2009, 12:37 PM
 
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I would have a hard time saying that the Nordic countries are best off - after all, aren't they the countries that actually had to resort to paying people to have children? I mean, if so, that's kind of sad...that the population of a country can't even thrive without the government bribing people into having kids.

I'm not saying that the US is the best, but hey, at least we don't have to worry about our entire tax base dying off....
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Old 06-07-2009, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Sanford, FL
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Moderator cut: orphaned I was taking your side, professor.
Moderator cut: see comment Secondly, far from Professor, I just read sometimes. Lastly, apologies...the Seattle "genius" had me a bit worked up.

Last edited by Bo; 06-11-2009 at 10:23 PM.. Reason: updated quote to match original, deleted sentence was orphaned by the update to the quute
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Old 06-07-2009, 01:34 PM
 
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I'm sorry, but China could easily overthrow America as the economic powerhouse.
If you drive a hundred miles into mainland China from the coast you'll see how backward many parts of China still truly are. And only delusional fools like you think China will ever be on par with America.
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Old 06-07-2009, 01:43 PM
 
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If you drive a hundred miles into mainland China from the coast you'll see how backward many parts of China still truly are. And only delusional fools like you think China will ever be on par with America.
Note, that I only said China could overthrow America economically. China is actually growing at a fast pace, while America's economy has contracted.
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