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Old 06-12-2009, 11:34 AM
 
Location: DFW Texas
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Denver ....definitely
Dallas......maybe inside Loop 12, the rest, not so much.
Houston .....maybe inside 610, the rest, not so much.
Austin.....more so than Dallas or Houston, especially with all the development downtown.
San Antonio.....downtown only.
Waco, TX......if the city would build sidewalks it could be a possibility.
New Orleans....aside from the Quarter and CBD, I think NO has huge potential to reinvent itself!
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Old 06-12-2009, 11:38 AM
 
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Great observations everyone.

To answer the poster who asked, I am asking which cities will exist in 2020 where residence will prefer to use public transit over having a car. Of course, I don't think America will ever have a completely car free city, lol.

It seems everyone is in agreement about Denver fitting the bill! =P This is awesome, because I am really thinking of getting a job there after I graduate.

I just spent 3.5 days in Dallas. I don't live there, so I can't say for sure, but I would say it has a very long way to go. Possible by 2030 it can achieve walkable status? I went all over the city and didn't really find its public transit preferable in any situation.

I've never been to Houston, so I can't say on that one.

Spent 3.5 days in Atlanta back in March. Atlanta definitely has a lead on Dallas in terms of public transit. I used its subway several times to get around. I even got to the Chinatown on it to grab a cheap lunch =P. I'd say a car is still needed in Atlanta, but I think by 2020 it can achieve a more walkable status.
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Old 06-12-2009, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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Denver ....definitely
Dallas......maybe inside Loop 12, the rest, not so much.
Houston .....maybe inside 610, the rest, not so much.
Austin.....more so than Dallas or Houston, especially with all the development downtown.
San Antonio.....downtown only.
Waco, TX......if the city would build sidewalks it could be a possibility.
New Orleans....aside from the Quarter and CBD, I think NO has huge potential to reinvent itself!
I'd say Atlanta has the potential to be more walkable (atleast within its core) than Houston and Dallas. Houston has screwed itself over with all the freeways and tollways.
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Old 06-12-2009, 11:57 PM
 
Location: 602/520
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Charlotte will not be walkable. People underestimate just how large Charlotte is and how suburban/rural feeling some sections of the city area. It's virtually impossible to make Charlotte walkable unless you put light rail lines everywhere.
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Old 06-13-2009, 04:52 AM
 
Location: DFW Texas
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I'd say Atlanta has the potential to be more walkable (atleast within its core) than Houston and Dallas. Houston has screwed itself over with all the freeways and tollways.
Never been to Atlanta (just the airport), but Dallas and Houston have pockets of walkable areas.......it's just linking them together is going to be a problem!
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Old 06-13-2009, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Great observations everyone.

To answer the poster who asked, I am asking which cities will exist in 2020 where residence will prefer to use public transit over having a car. .
I'm for public transit in big cities if the riders in those cities pay for it. Right now, riders only pay one-third of their cost and everyone else picks up the rest of the tab.

Public Transit: A Bad Product at a Bad Price

How about bicycles? I was watching a documentary a few months ago about Copenhagen's turn to bicycles. They have their own lanes and their own traffic signals. They have bicycle stations where you get and drop off your free bicycle. I don't know about say San Francisco's ability to do this but flatter cities could. Here's a little article I found:

CityBike in Copenhagen - The Copenhagen CityBikes

I was hoping for teleportation, myself.
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Old 06-13-2009, 08:10 AM
 
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Right now, riders only pay one-third of their cost and everyone else picks up the rest of the tab.
How is that different from the road system, though?
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Old 06-13-2009, 11:20 AM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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Denver is walkable...right now. I visited a friend there (off of Washington Street near Capitol Hill) and I could do no car quite easily right now there... even getting to boulder from there, quite easily, also did the airport from there and back, quite easily.

Just went to walk score... Denver ranks 11 out of the 40 biggest metros... not surprising.
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Old 06-13-2009, 12:24 PM
 
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How about Seattle? Is it currently walkable? Will people prefer PT over driving there in 2020?
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Old 06-13-2009, 12:32 PM
 
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Seattle is walkable already as well, if you live inside the city. They're finishing a line from the airport to downtown to the UW by the end of the year and are adding more. So I'd say soon you'd be able to live their without a car.
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