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Old 06-19-2009, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Tennessee/Michigan
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What's the murder capital of the nation? That depends on who does the counting.

Until this month, that dubious distinction for 2008 fell on Baltimore. But then, Detroit's police department conceded the city had 339 murders in 2008 rather than 306 -- making Detroit the deadliest city in the nation.

U.S. 'Murder Capital' a Tricky Figure - ABC News
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Old 06-19-2009, 09:21 PM
 
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Well, the murder capital is New Orleans. Detroit and Baltimore are slugging it out for the "highest murder rate for cities of over 500,000" crown, which is a bit different from the overall murder capital.
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Old 06-19-2009, 10:01 PM
 
Location: 30-40N 90-100W
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I thought it was Gary, Indiana but I can't find recent stats on Gary. So New Orleans does seem to be highest for town of over 100,000. St. Louis's rate also comes out higher than Detroit or Baltimore.

Table 4 - Illinois through Missouri (http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/08aprelim/table_4il-mo.html - broken link)

For overall violent crime rate Irvine, California seemed to come out best

Table 4 - Alabama through California (http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/08aprelim/table_4al-ca.html - broken link)

and St. Louis worst

Table 4 - Illinois through Missouri (http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/08aprelim/table_4il-mo.html - broken link)

As this thread indicates that depends on the accuracy of the city's reporting. Well it also depends on the accuracy of my fingers and calculator
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Old 06-19-2009, 10:18 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, United States
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New Orleans has held the Murder Capital title for the last two years, sadly.
murder rate and total # of murders are two seperate things.
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Old 06-20-2009, 01:55 AM
 
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New Orleans has held the Murder Capital title for the last two years, sadly.
murder rate and total # of murders are two seperate things.
Detroit has the highest murder rate with over 500,000 people. For the total number of murders, Detroit has New Orleans beat. I'm assuming the murder rate per 100,000 people for New Orleans is higher though, and I bet there are a few other smaller cities that fall into that category as well.

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New Orleans had 179 homicides in 2008, with a population of just over 300,000. St Louis had 167 last year (187 if you count East St Louis and it's 30,00 population) with around 350,000 people. Although, N.O. decreased in homicides by 15%.
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Old 06-20-2009, 02:07 AM
 
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I thought it was Gary, Indiana but I can't find recent stats on Gary. So New Orleans does seem to be highest for town of over 100,000. St. Louis's rate also comes out higher than Detroit or Baltimore.

Table 4 - Illinois through Missouri (http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/08aprelim/table_4il-mo.html - broken link)

For overall violent crime rate Irvine, California seemed to come out best

Table 4 - Alabama through California (http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/08aprelim/table_4al-ca.html - broken link)

and St. Louis worst

Table 4 - Illinois through Missouri (http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/08aprelim/table_4il-mo.html - broken link)

As this thread indicates that depends on the accuracy of the city's reporting. Well it also depends on the accuracy of my fingers and calculator
I noticed that the homicide totals aren't correct for Cleveland on the fbi website. The numbers in 2008 and 2007 were logged on here and a website. 2007 I believe was 135-145 and that figure has it at 90, far below.

I wonder if this is a technical error or if Cleveland isn't reporting the correct information to the FBI. It wouldn't surprise me if the latter is true.

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Old 06-20-2009, 03:40 AM
 
Location: 30-40N 90-100W
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Hmm possible. As the thread indicates these numbers may not be accurate.

With that caution in mind NYC and Chicago seem to have the highest sheer number of homicides. What they list for Chicago is nearly the same as NYC despite Chicago being noticeably smaller. Whether that means anything, it was interesting.
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Old 06-20-2009, 04:04 AM
 
Location: Portland, Maine
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Homicide/crime rates can be misleading for a city. Being in Baltimore, I am very familiar with them. Yet, I really don't feel affected by them because I am not out dealing drugs in the middle of the night. I know NYC and Chicago have lesser rates but there are neighborhoods in both of those cities that I feel are way more dangerous than Baltimore. Yet, the entire city gets the reputation as either safer of more dangerous.
I am disgusted by Baltimore's rate and wish there would be less crime but I don't really feel unsafe in the city. Maybe it would be more accurate to do crime/homicide rates by zip code or some other way?
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Old 06-20-2009, 09:01 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, United States
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Detroit has the highest murder rate with over 500,000 people. For the total number of murders, Detroit has New Orleans beat. I'm assuming the murder rate per 100,000 people for New Orleans is higher though, and I bet there are a few other smaller cities that fall into that category as well.

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New Orleans had 179 homicides in 2008, with a population of just over 300,000. St Louis had 167 last year (187 if you count East St Louis and it's 30,00 population) with around 350,000 people. Although, N.O. decreased in homicides by 15%.
In 2008 Detroit had 33.8 murders per 100,000 people. New Orleans had 63.7 per 100,000 , higher than any other city in the country.
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Old 06-20-2009, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Chicago metro
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Poor New Orleans. Its more worse than Detroit
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