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Old 06-20-2009, 10:27 PM
 
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I think the Pacific Northwest + the sunbelt states that are still relatively undeveloped (Alabama, Mississippi, northern Louisiana, etc.).

I don't really see the midwest or northeast booming. They're just not the most business-friendly areas, and a city needs jobs (or at least a favorable climate) to be able to boom.
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Old 06-20-2009, 11:38 PM
 
Location: Tippecanoe County, Indiana
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I think the Pacific Northwest + the sunbelt states that are still relatively undeveloped (Alabama, Mississippi, northern Louisiana, etc.).

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The rural southeast will never boom as long as educational attainment levels of the population remain abysmally low. Do you really think new employers or companies are going to be rushing into these rural areas?

Also, much of the manufacturing and mill jobs in the rural southeast have really started to disappear over the last few decades. I would say globalization and cheap overseas labor is the reason why.
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Old 06-21-2009, 01:26 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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The South's water issues were due to an excessive and unusual drought. It's over now, and reservoir levels as well as rainfall are back to normal. The South is not located in the middle of a desert...
It rains a lot where I live in Tennessee. For example, the average annual rainfall in Seattle, WA is 35.9 inches and in my Tennessee town it's 55 inches. Seattle does have more precipitation days, though, 155 vs 128.

Florida would have more water if everyone drained their pools or you know, jumped into them with a bar of soap.

I'm surprised we, as a country, haven't come up with better ways of water capture.
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Old 06-21-2009, 03:07 AM
 
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The rural southeast will never boom as long as educational attainment levels of the population remain abysmally low. Do you really think new employers or companies are going to be rushing into these rural areas?
I know that it's already happening in parts of Alabama....companies are liking the cheap property and low taxes, so they relocate down there and bring a bunch of their own people.
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Old 06-21-2009, 05:27 AM
 
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The rural southeast will never boom as long as educational attainment levels of the population remain abysmally low. Do you really think new employers or companies are going to be rushing into these rural areas?

Also, much of the manufacturing and mill jobs in the rural southeast have really started to disappear over the last few decades. I would say globalization and cheap overseas labor is the reason why.
This is a pretty good point, but there are non-US companies that locate in the US.

From the standard of a manufacturer from France or Germany or even Japan a worker in Louisiana or Arkansas might be quite productive with comparatively little demands. I think the infrastructure is also generally going to be better even in those two states than in places with "cheaper labor" like Venezuela or the Philippines.
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Old 06-21-2009, 06:02 AM
 
Location: Surprise, AZ
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The South's water issues were due to an excessive and unusual drought. It's over now, and reservoir levels as well as rainfall are back to normal. The South is not located in the middle of a desert...
Yes, perhaps...but what's your point about the desert?
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Old 06-21-2009, 06:05 AM
 
Location: Surprise, AZ
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The Upper Midwest won't - but the Eastern Rust Belt will see itself reinvented and prosper for the first time in decades. Buffalo and Pittsburgh are in for better times. As for Cleveland and everything to the west, definitely not.

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VT, NH and ME - high quality of life, natural beauty, availability of resources.

The Pacific Northwest will resume booming as it did before the recession.

The Sunbelt will be the new Rustbelt, and I'll include Southern California in this as well as NV and AZ. NM's remained more rural despite some development and relatively low unemployment thanks to Gov. Richardson so it'll be spared the worst of the worst.
Based on your reputation, I'll hold my breath...thx. BTW, now is a GREAT time to buy in AZ and NV, don't you know??
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Old 06-21-2009, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Tippecanoe County, Indiana
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I know that it's already happening in parts of Alabama....companies are liking the cheap property and low taxes, so they relocate down there and bring a bunch of their own people.
Well, how long will those jobs last? We have seen cycles where businesses decide to invest in these rural areas, but get shipped elsewhere when they can find lower labor costs. Take a look at the state of Alabama for example. Most rural counties have seen a decrease in non-farm employment since 2000. The state has also had less non-farm job growth compared to the national average. The same goes for Mississippi, Tennessee, Georgia, South Carolina, Kentucky, Lousiana, etc.
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Old 06-21-2009, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Tippecanoe County, Indiana
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This is a pretty good point, but there are non-US companies that locate in the US.

From the standard of a manufacturer from France or Germany or even Japan a worker in Louisiana or Arkansas might be quite productive with comparatively little demands. I think the infrastructure is also generally going to be better even in those two states than in places with "cheaper labor" like Venezuela or the Philippines.
Non-unionized jobs at foreign brand auto plants have been a bigger player in portions of the southeast. However, we have seen how bad the auto industry in general has been hurt in this recession. The point being, these rural areas are more vulnerable to economic meltdowns because they tend to be less economically diverse without including agricultural staples.
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Old 06-21-2009, 09:12 AM
 
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The rural southeast will never boom as long as educational attainment levels of the population remain abysmally low. Do you really think new employers or companies are going to be rushing into these rural areas?

Also, much of the manufacturing and mill jobs in the rural southeast have really started to disappear over the last few decades. I would say globalization and cheap overseas labor is the reason why.
Places like Georgia, North Carolina, Virginia, and Texas were just as rural at one point and that didn't stop companies from moving there.
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