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Old 10-27-2010, 02:05 PM
 
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If we're talking murder capital by RATES - then NYC, Chicago and LA have never even been near the top. I think other big cities have always had rates at least 2-3 times the cities listed above.

If you're going by actual numbers - than it's always been NYC going back decades except for 1998, 2001, 2002 and 2003 when it was Chicago (after that it returned to NYC).
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Old 10-27-2010, 09:58 PM
 
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The city of 100,000 population or more with the highest per capita murder rate is the actual murder capital. Murder capital in left column, major city with highest per capita rate in right column.

1985- Detroit 58.2 1985-Detroit 58.2
1986- Detroit 59.1 1986-Detroit 59.1
1987- Detroit 62.8 1987-Detroit 62.8
1988- D.C.---59.5 1988-D.C.---59.5
1989- D.C.---71.9 1989-D.C.---71.9
1990- D.C.---77.8 1990-D.C.---77.8
1991- D.C.---80.6 1991-D.C.---80.6
1992- D.C.---75.2 1992-D.C.---75.2
1993- Gary---89.1 1993-N.O.---80.3
1994- N.O.---85.8 1994-N.O.---85.8
1995- Gary---83.3 1995-N.O.---74.5
1996- Gary---89.6 1996-D.C.---73.1
1997- Gary---84.1 1997-D.C.---56.9
1998- Gary---68.9 1998-D.C.---49.7
1999- Gary---68.6 1999-D.C.---46.4
2000- Gary---65.2 2000-N.O.---42.1
2001- Gary---79.4 2001-N.O.---44.0
2002- Gary---57.7 2002-N.O.---53.1
2003- Gary---67.0 2003-N.O.---57.7
2004- N.O.---56.0 2004-N.O.---56.0
2005- Gary---58.0 2005-N.O.---45.3---8 months
2006- N.O.---76.4 2006-N.O.---76.4
2007- N.O.---74.0 2007-N.O.---74.0
2008- N.O.---63.6 2008-N.O.---63.6
2009- N.O.---51.9 2009-N.O.---51,9
Looks like Flint will be the murder capital of 2010 and I believe Gary would have been in 2009 if it's population hadn't dropped below 100,000

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Old 10-27-2010, 11:20 PM
 
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[/list]428989]Looks like Flint will be the murder capital of 2010 and I believe Gary would have been in 2009 if it's population hadn't dropped below 100,000
You must be a stats major...ppl are so quick to use the term "murder capitol" for every city theres a diff between the most dangerous cities and a murder capitol ...judging by the list theres only 3 major cities that had that label .....N.O(13) D.C (9) Detroit (3)....case closed Aceter
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Old 10-28-2010, 09:34 AM
 
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Oakland's murder rate is down for the third straight year.
Murders so far this year: 66
Murders this time last year: 85

Im hoping for a slow Nov-Dec. I would love to end out the year with under 70 homicides but that's probably wishful thinking.

However, Im noticing a rash of shootings on the news lately(in Oakland). No deaths, but that really makes me mad. Some people have no concept of respect for the rule of law and respect for basic humanity.

One thing I must point out tho, is that according to the Oakland Police Dept, approx 80% of the homicides in Oakland are criminals killing other criminals while engaged in some sort of illegal activity.
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Old 10-28-2010, 09:46 AM
 
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Los Angeles used to have some of the most sensational murders. People like Richard Ramirez [The Night Stalker] or the Hillside Strangler [which was actually 2 stranglers: Kenneth Bianchi and Angelo Buono]. Of-course there was the Helter Skelter commune of Charles Manson. All are on death row but will probably never be executed.
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Old 10-28-2010, 09:48 AM
 
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Chicago is honored with the title "Murder Capital" because it typically has the highest number of murders per year but not per capita. The 3 contenders per capita have typically been Camden NJ St. Louis and Detroit.
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Old 10-28-2010, 03:45 PM
 
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^ I just wrote that in Chicago's entire history it's only had the most murders of any city four times.

NYC has held it 98% of the time. Not saying NYC is dangerous or anything, obviously it's a LOT larger. Just seems weird that Chicago had more murders than NYC back in 2003 or whenever, and for some reason it just stuck with a lot of people that it happens every year.
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Old 10-28-2010, 05:30 PM
 
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Chicago is honored with the title "Murder Capital" because it typically has the highest number of murders per year but not per capita. The 3 contenders per capita have typically been Camden NJ St. Louis and Detroit.


You folks must've skipped that long list Aceter just put up....the 3 contenders are N.O, D.C , and Detroit why still throw out these cities when the answer has already been posted ....and its about per capita not the most ...if N.O were the size of NY when NY had 2000 homicides N.O would've had 8,000....
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Old 10-28-2010, 09:06 PM
 
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^ I just wrote that in Chicago's entire history it's only had the most murders of any city four times.

NYC has held it 98% of the time. Not saying NYC is dangerous or anything, obviously it's a LOT larger. Just seems weird that Chicago had more murders than NYC back in 2003 or whenever, and for some reason it just stuck with a lot of people that it happens every year.
Many times during the 90s and 00s other NY cities had higher murder rates than NYC did, specifically Rochester & Buffalo, the second nd third largest cities in the state. But both of those cities have miniscule populations compared to NYC. It's like saying Compton, CA, a small suburb, has a higher murder rate than LA. True, but not quite apples and apples.
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Old 10-28-2010, 09:13 PM
 
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You must be a stats major...ppl are so quick to use the term "murder capitol" for every city theres a diff between the most dangerous cities and a murder capitol ...judging by the list theres only 3 major cities that had that label .....N.O(13) D.C (9) Detroit (3)....case closed Aceter
Those annual most dangerous cities lists is the reason I started researching homicide data. I wondered why D.C. never ranked as most dangerous even though it led major cities in per capita homicide rate 4 straight years from 96 through 99 while New Orleans was named most dangerous once, only because of major population loss. CQ Press started their most dangerous city list in 1994, and only D.C. and New Orleans have led major cities in per capita murder rate since then. Another thing that was confusing is the reality that New Orleans didn't deserve the label of most dangerous because it's not. Most murderous, yeah.
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