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Old 06-24-2019, 03:28 PM
 
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When we moved back East, we were shocked by how run down many things were compared to the South West. The roads, houses not cared for inside and out and other things. Also, how people would say whatever they were thinking, no filter. I grew up in that environment, but not having been there so many years and coming back to that, it was eye opening and took time to readjust to.
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Old 06-24-2019, 03:35 PM
 
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I've seen them in the following spots in the following Union states in the past year or so:
-In a yard in Minnesota flying at the top of a flag pole (and it was a well kept non-rednecky looking place)
I remember seeing a home with a confederate flag near Winona years ago. Wonder if it’s the same place.
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Old 06-24-2019, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
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I've seen them in the following spots in the following Union states in the past year or so:
-In a yard in Minnesota flying at the top of a flag pole (and it was a well kept non-rednecky looking place)
-A guy in Wisconsin just wearing a jacket whose design was the Confederate flag
-As a bumper sticker in Iowa
These are people who feel compelled to announce to the world that they're scumbags and proud of it. They're everywhere in the US.
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Old 06-24-2019, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I agree that people who fly the Rebel flag are generally being inflammatory. But I've seen an increase in usage in the north, and assume it's related to the rise of inflammatory political rhetoric and isn't really about the Confederacy, the South, or slavery, and more about being offensive for offensiveness sake.
I used to see them in my hometown in SW PA as a kid. We were pretty close to the Mason-Dixon line.
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Old 06-24-2019, 05:52 PM
 
Location: West Seattle
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I used to see them in my hometown in SW PA as a kid. We were pretty close to the Mason-Dixon line.
I've seen a couple in Nevada. I even saw one in an apartment in Chicago once.
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Old 06-25-2019, 12:59 AM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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In California and Maryland I was shocked by the high taxes and the cost of living. Maryland also has extreme toll rates across its bridges and tunnels. Here in Louisiana except for the Lake Pontchartrain Causeway there are no tolls anywhere. It costs $8 round trip across Baltimore County. The government overregulation and liberal politics was also a shock, such as having plastic bag taxes, plastic straw bans, etc. In the Northeast and California it was also shocking how almost all working class jobs are done by immigrants including fast food, landscapping etc. You go to a McDonalds in Louisiana or WV and everyone who works there is still American and speaks English.

Likewise, people I know form the north when visiting the South are shocked at the lack of toll roads, how many communities don't have recycling, etc. Many visitors who come here from outside the South are also shocked by the amount of people who smoke here.
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Old 06-25-2019, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Buffalo, NY
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In California and Maryland I was shocked by the high taxes and the cost of living. Maryland also has extreme toll rates across its bridges and tunnels. Here in Louisiana except for the Lake Pontchartrain Causeway there are no tolls anywhere. It costs $8 round trip across Baltimore County. The government overregulation and liberal politics was also a shock, such as having plastic bag taxes, plastic straw bans, etc. In the Northeast and California it was also shocking how almost all working class jobs are done by immigrants including fast food, landscapping etc. You go to a McDonalds in Louisiana or WV and everyone who works there is still American and speaks English.

Likewise, people I know form the north when visiting the South are shocked at the lack of toll roads, how many communities don't have recycling, etc. Many visitors who come here from outside the South are also shocked by the amount of people who smoke here.
It should go without saying that the entire South is not the same, as in Texas toll roads are taking over, many if not most now are limited access that require an EZ tag as they no longer take cash. Like the Baltimore example, a trip around the Beltway in Houston can add up to tens of dollars per trip. The predominance of non-cash toll roads in Houston, and their continued expansion, I am sure has got to be a shock to anyone trying to navigate through the city that does not live in Texas.
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Old 06-25-2019, 03:38 PM
 
Location: South of Cakalaki
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The condition of so many small cities in Eastern NY on our trip last fall. A lot of businesses and homes appeared abandoned.
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Old 06-25-2019, 03:54 PM
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When we moved back East, we were shocked by how run down many things were compared to the South West. The roads, houses not cared for inside and out and other things. Also, how people would say whatever they were thinking, no filter. I grew up in that environment, but not having been there so many years and coming back to that, it was eye opening and took time to readjust to.
Felt the same way when I first came back to California in the late 80’s and early 90’s.

Everything was falling apart and needing repair. It really hasn’t gotten much better in recent years. In the 60’s and 70’s when I lived there everything was brand new and shiny!!
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Old 06-26-2019, 06:10 PM
 
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The first time I drove out west from the east coast, I was really impressed how the skyline just opened up. Mountains that were 50-60 miles away were clearly visible. Coming back home from my visit this contrast of vista was brought home by my passage through Oklahoma on I40. Entering the state from the west and driving east, I had this sensation that the interstate was getting narrower and narrower as we drove east. My line of sight was getting shorter and the vegetation seemed to close in. It was one those perceptions that stick with me to this day.
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