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Old 06-27-2009, 08:04 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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It was so funny when I visited Vermont and talked to the locals. Some of the locals resent the flatlanders (mainly New Yorkers). Even if you read the Vermont forum, you get the same feeling. It's just interesting to read about states in the same region having those types of conflicts.

I remember seeing anti-northern rants on bumper stickers in Florida, but I also saw a "Don't Jersey Vermont" (I think that's what it said) while in New England. Interesting.
Well we did fight New York for independence at the same time the American Revolution was going on; there's some history behind this feud!
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Old 06-27-2009, 08:32 PM
 
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Well, if you want to enjoy Northeastern rural living go to upstate NY instead. They tend not to have that sort of local xenophobia.
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Old 06-27-2009, 08:39 PM
 
Location: IN
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Most of rural NH is fairly open to outsiders for the most part. Much of the Lakes Region and White Mountains has a tourist/retiree/construction/real estate economy for the most part. The average age in many Lakes Region towns in NH is over 45, but the population is growing fairly fast. Many people from the Northeast and elsewhere retire in NH because they don't tax capital gains and lack a sales tax. NH is the 2nd fastest growing state behind Delaware in the region.
The weird thing about NH is property taxes... They are drastically different on a town by town basis.

The slowest growing state is RI. They also have by far the worst economy in the Northeast in terms of unemployment.

I was shocked when I looked at the quickfacts data for rural PA. Young people are fleeing rural western and central PA at a rapid pace. Most of those counties will likely have 20% of the population over age 65 by the 2010 census. (National average is the 12.5% range, currently)
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Old 06-29-2009, 05:26 PM
 
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Most of rural NH is fairly open to outsiders for the most part. Much of the Lakes Region and White Mountains has a tourist/retiree/construction/real estate economy for the most part. The average age in many Lakes Region towns in NH is over 45, but the population is growing fairly fast. Many people from the Northeast and elsewhere retire in NH because they don't tax capital gains and lack a sales tax. NH is the 2nd fastest growing state behind Delaware in the region.
The weird thing about NH is property taxes... They are drastically different on a town by town basis.

The slowest growing state is RI. They also have by far the worst economy in the Northeast in terms of unemployment.

I was shocked when I looked at the quickfacts data for rural PA. Young people are fleeing rural western and central PA at a rapid pace. Most of those counties will likely have 20% of the population over age 65 by the 2010 census. (National average is the 12.5% range, currently)


most of the upper northeast is going to have a high percentage of 65 or older due stagnant population and or loss.
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Old 06-29-2009, 07:17 PM
 
Location: IN
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most of the upper northeast is going to have a high percentage of 65 or older due stagnant population and or loss.
I hear many NYers were moving down to NC for lower COL and job market. NC now has a very high unemployment rate. I have to believe that high taxes are driving many south and west in states like NY, MA, ME, VT, and CT.
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Old 06-29-2009, 08:01 PM
 
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Since PA doesn't tax pensions, and generally the winter's less brutal than upstate NY, there's less incentive for retirees to move away. There are even some pockets (such as Wellsboro, and a few areas along the Mason-Dixon line) that are promoted as retirement destinations. So IMHO the PA situation is a bit more complicated than just exporting young people from the rural areas.
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Old 06-30-2009, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Polish Hill, Pittsburgh, PA
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NEPA is transitioning to becoming a retirement haven for people from NYC/NJ/SEPA who want to escape the "rat race." I call Scranton/Wilkes-Barre one of the nation's largest revolving doors. A surprisingly HIGH number of native children go on to further their educations beyond high school, and an even more shocking number then put their degrees to good use elsewhere. As they flood out, older people from those very same areas are flooding in to take their place. Scranton/Wilkes-Barre's population actually GREW for the past two years for the first time after many decades of steep decline for this reason. 20% of the metropolitan area being of senior citizen status soon is not out of the question.
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Old 07-01-2009, 05:51 AM
 
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Sounds like Scranton had better give up on the wage tax and go back to property tax soon.
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