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Old 06-30-2009, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Boston or SF. and no they are not as snobby as everyone says it is.
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Old 06-30-2009, 08:07 PM
 
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The Philadelphia metro would be a great choice!
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Old 06-30-2009, 08:12 PM
 
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You want a vibrant, artistic, well educated, Trader Joe natural/organic city, but you don't want to live in a Liberal city? You're going to have to give one of these things up...which is more important?

What you're asking for is the quintessential liberal city. Portland, Seattle, SF, that kind of thing.
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Old 06-30-2009, 10:58 PM
 
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Yeah, I would also say Seattle. I'm just curious, why not the PNW?
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Old 07-01-2009, 10:03 AM
 
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Yeah, I would also say Seattle. I'm just curious, why not the PNW?
It's almost overwhelmingly liberal. The whole outdoorsy, organic-y lifestyle is only one piece of the puzzle. I want an area like Seattle or Portland, but a little more down-to-earth and a little less hostile to conservative ideas. I've spent a lot of time in Oregon and I found the liberalism almost parochial in its special way.

Those cities are too urban, anyway.
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Old 07-02-2009, 10:18 AM
 
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Here are a few cities that I've been looking at. I haven't been to any of them so your comments about their fit would be appreciated...

-Boise
-Salt Lake City
-Pittsburgh
-Raleigh
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Old 07-02-2009, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Arvada, CO
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Maybe the Denver or Boulder areas? They are more liberal, but everything else seems about right.
No Trader Joe's.

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Here are a few cities that I've been looking at. I haven't been to any of them so your comments about their fit would be appreciated...

-Boise
-Salt Lake City
-Pittsburgh
-Raleigh
Boise and Salt Lake City don't have Trader Joe's.

Boise and Raleigh don't have IKEA.

I wouldn't think Boise would have much in the way of arts and culture.

SLC isn't affordable.

Boise might not have pretty autumns.
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Old 07-02-2009, 03:00 PM
 
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You might like Syracuse......I think the only thing that hurts it from being a possibility for you is the winter weather aspect. Everything else you can just about find in the area though. Very underrated arts scene, good schools, the county is more Republican than the city, a lot of parks, we have the Co-op markets; along with one of the best supermarkets in the country in Wegmans, the Fall is the best time of year in the area, one of the most affordable housing markets in the country and the there are plenty of festivals during the summer as well.

Also, we don't have IKEA, but I hope Pier 1 would do.

Some communities you might like are Skaneateles, Fayetteville/Manlius area, Camillus, Cazenovia and the Fabius/Pompey area. In the city of Syracuse, you might like the East side neighborhoods like Meadowbrook or University. Strathmore and Sedgwick might be more to your liking as well.

Here's some information: http://www.syracuse.ny.us/

http://www.syracuse.ny.us/parks/index.html

http://www.visitsyracuse.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syracuse,_New_York

http://www.cnyrealtor.com/

http://www.ongov.net/

http://www.onondagacountyparks.com/

http://www.syracusearts.net/ , http://www.syracusearts.net/directory/default.cfm

http://downtownsyracuse.com/static/C69

http://www.iloveny.com/home.aspx

http://www.wegmans.com/webapp/wcs/st...0002&langId=-1

http://www.ncga.coop/node/938

https://www.nystart.gov/publicweb/County.do?year=2008&county=Onondaga (broken link)

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Old 07-02-2009, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Norwood, Massachusetts
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The weather is probably not a great fit and I don't know if it has an IKEA or Trader Joes but Austin Texas comes to mind.
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Old 07-02-2009, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Fondren SW Yo
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- We want a vibrant, clean city with lots of arts and culture. We love ballet and a great arts scene.
- We are looking for great suburbs. Great for families. Great homes. Great parks.
-We are a young couple so affordability is important. My career field is lucrative, but we're just starting out.
- We really need a family-friendly city. The whole "urban swinger" mindset is what we're trying to avoid. We are not a couple looking for a city with great night life.
- I love the outdoors and love hiking. We needs lots of parks and greenspaces.
- We are Trader Joe's-eating and Ikea-shopping yuppies. We need a healthy, organic-y kind of town.
- We are also a very conservative couple. We want one of those scary "I-voted-for-Bush-and-homeschool-my-kids" kind of families.
- We value education (she's a teacher). We want a well-educated city without the usual snobbery of super-smart cities like Boston and San Francisco.
- We love charming, older neighborhoods with cool cafes and bistros.
- Good economy. Economy vibrancy is a big deal.
- We like cool, crisp weather--but not miserably cold. We really don't like long, muggy summers.
- We love beautiful, tree-filled cities with pretty autumns.

It's a lot to ask, but is there anything that would meet most of these criteria? Which city would be the best fit?
While the summer heat might rule them out, I'm currently in Houston and lived in Dallas for a year and a half. My wife and I (she's a New Yorker, I'm from Southern California) love both cities. Both have vibrant art and culture scenes, relatively decent economies and have a surprisingly high level of political tranquility between liberals and conservatives. This is not the xenophobic liberalism of the PNW or SF Bay Area, but it's not the culture-deficient small town conservatism you find in much of the south. I have a crunchy-conservative streak in me (we exercise, like the outdoors, healthy eating, etc.) but we also are traditional family values types. The two big Texas cities are definitely to our liking. I also visited Denver on business last month, and while I don't really know the city well, I was very impressed by what I saw.
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