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Old 06-30-2009, 10:57 AM
 
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Civil engineering is a little hard to break into because many of the employers are small firms that want you to get experience (and perhaps a P.E. license) somewhere else. They're also not too likely to pay relocation expenses. The land development design sector is the most likely to be hiring right out of school during the up times, or in the up places.

One good possibility to get started (worked for me coming out of Syracuse two recessions ago, with paid relocation) might be the federal government. Check out USAJOBS - Search Jobs
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Old 06-30-2009, 11:06 AM
 
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Civil engineering is a little hard to break into because many of the employers are small firms that want you to get experience (and perhaps a P.E. license) somewhere else. They're also not too likely to pay relocation expenses. The land development design sector is the most likely to be hiring right out of school during the up times, or in the up places.

One good possibility to get started (worked for me coming out of Syracuse two recessions ago, with paid relocation) might be the federal government. Check out USAJOBS - Search Jobs

I hope it'll help that I had one last summer, and I currently have an internship this summer with PennDOT, and will next summer too; so I'm gaining experience in that retrospect. I realized not exactly what some employers exactly want, but definitely SUPER better than nothing. Thank you for that search engine. It's neat. Are all the jobs ofered on there for federal gov. positions?

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Old 06-30-2009, 12:11 PM
 
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Top Universities for Civil Engineering:

1. University of California, Berkeley CA
2. University of Illinois, Urbana IL
3. MIT, Cambridge MA
3. Stanford University, Stanford CA
3. University of Texas, Austin TX
6. Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta GA
7. Purdue University, West Lafayette IL
7. University of Michigan, Ann Arbor MI
7. Virginia Tech, Blacksburg VA
10. Cornell University, Ithaca NY
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Old 06-30-2009, 12:54 PM
 
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i'm sorry for the misunderstanding. I'm not looking for universities. I'm looking for places to live AFTER I have already graduated. I'm going to Pitt. Not the BEST engineering school, but one of the tops in the nation for at least undergrad.
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Old 06-30-2009, 01:01 PM
 
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Actually many many engineers did their time in the summer in school working as an inspector or on a survey crew. I'd consider that very important perspective. I had three summers with the NYS DOT.

Yes, the U.S. OPM site lists federal government jobs. The job series 0810 is "Civil Engineer." You might also consider 0819 Environmental Engineer.
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Old 06-30-2009, 01:07 PM
 
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Actually many many engineers did their time in the summer in school working as an inspector or on a survey crew. I'd consider that very important perspective. I had three summers with the NYS DOT.

Yes, the U.S. OPM site lists federal government jobs. The job series 0810 is "Civil Engineer." You might also consider 0819 Environmental Engineer.

just curious. You don't have to say though. Where did you go after that, assuming you found success there.
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Old 06-30-2009, 01:28 PM
 
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I was only working for the DOT in college and summer after I graduated. No one in my area of NY state was hiring so I moved out to Iowa to work for the feds. After moving to Harrisburg PA area with the feds, with about 8 years in (and a P.E.) I left to work for private consultants. I'm still not sure if I worked too long, or not long enough, for the feds.
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Old 06-30-2009, 01:49 PM
 
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I was only working for the DOT in college and summer after I graduated. No one in my area of NY state was hiring so I moved out to Iowa to work for the feds. After moving to Harrisburg PA area with the feds, with about 8 years in (and a P.E.) I left to work for private consultants. I'm still not sure if I worked too long, or not long enough, for the feds.

haha. well thanks for the input. Did you like Harrisburg? haha. sad to say, but I've never actually been there. drove through plenty of times, but have never stopped.
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Old 06-30-2009, 02:20 PM
 
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Did you like Harrisburg? haha. sad to say, but I've never actually been there. drove through plenty of times, but have never stopped.
I've been to and in a lot worse places. I'm not a big city person, but visiting larger cities from here is pretty convenient (the truckers have figured that out too). There's woods around we can get out to. The economy is better than most places, even now someone posted info about being in the top 20 economically of the 100 largest metros (I was a little surprised to learn this is one of the 100 largest metros but they may have combined it with Lancaster and York as the Nielsen market is, #46 I think). I hear it's gotten better for young people for entertainment, though coming from Pittsburgh it's probably pretty laughable in that respect. There's plenty of Western PA transplants hereabouts. You can even get a Master's degree night school at the local Penn State campus (I did that too). So far after 11 years here I haven't had trouble staying employed. Between local land development stuff, and being near PENNDOT and DEP central per capita employment for civil engineers must be higher here than average.
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Old 06-30-2009, 02:21 PM
 
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Thank you kazoopilot. In addition, which of the mentioned are, hmm.. say, a younger population. I don't ask this to reference partying or bar hopping, etc. I just mean it towards, just making it easier for me to meet people my age perhaps. I would be around 22-23 when I would be moving.
All of the towns I mentioned have young populations, and Kalamazoo and Grand Rapids are pretty big college towns.
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