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Old 07-02-2009, 06:24 AM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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I would suggest the lovely town of Fairhope, AL. It is situated on the eastern shore of Mobile Bay and is about 25 miles from the port city of Mobile. It's one of my favorite cities in the South.

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Old 07-02-2009, 08:58 AM
 
Location: London
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well, at first i'm going to be able to travel for pleasure/business without a visa if i stay for less than 90 days. i'm going to use that time to visit the area i like and see if i can work out a business arrangement and if everything is okay, then i'll try for a working visa. it's not a solid plan, i know, but maybe i'll meet some nice people who'll sponsor me for one if things don't work out! and if everything fails, then i'll just try somewhere else!
Hi flustrered,

I'm sorry to be the first to mention this on here but seeing as you're looking to enter the US for 90 days on the Visa Waiver Programme (VWP) i'm assuming that you don't have a US passport or a visa that entitles you to live there?

I'm not an immigration lawyer but i do know that the US is incredibly difficult to move to from Britain unless you do one of the following: marry an American (still no guarentee you'll receive a passport), have a specialist skill that is in demand over there and they cannot find someone locally to do the same job (this would be a very skilled/niché job i.e. a scientist, it also comes with a lengthy visa process) or transfer to a US office with your current employer (you will only be entitled to stay in the country whilst working for said employer).

Obviously i don't know the specifics of your current situation and i apologise if i've jumped to conclusions here but there's no point even considering places in the US unless you meet their incredibly strict entry requirements for British passport holders.

You may wish to consider Australia or Canada's skilled migration visas or an EU country (we can live in them visa free!) if you're that keen to leave England?! Don't think this is the US being particularly harsh on us Brits, we have made it increasingly difficult for Americans to move here in recent years too. If you're hell-bent on experincing living in the States and you're under a certain age, you could look at doing a J1 internship over there to get a taste of working and live in the US.

Good luck with whatever you choose to do but please do check visa requirements before heading out there to scout for jobs/housing.

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Old 07-02-2009, 09:23 AM
 
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Hello Flustered.

If you are wanting to live among true Southern culture, I would rule Texas out immediately. I'm sure I'll be attacked for saying this, but Texas has had such an influx of newcomers from all over the US, not to mention Mexico, that it has lost much of it's Southern flavor. Unless of course, you live in a small town in East Texas, such as Marshall/Longview, Lufkin, or Nacogdoches (a very nice town).

I am biased, but I would recommend Louisiana, particularly South Louisiana. Now don't listen to all the negative things you will hear about my part of the country on here. If you are careful about the neighborhood you choose to live in, you will never have a problem, and South Louisiana with it's French influence has (in my opinion) the most unique culture and lifestyle in the US. If you choose New Orleans (which is wonderful), try to live in Metairie or one of the other outlying areas rather than directly in the city although there are nice areas in New Orleans itself if you know where to look. Lafayette, La would be my recommendation. About 150,000 people, some beautiful old neighborhoods, out of this world cuisine, and it is the primary city of the Cajun region of Louisiana. And then there is Natchitoches, La. It only has about 15,000 people, but it is the oldest city in the Louisiana Purchase, founded in 1714 it is 4 years older than New Orleans. It has a wonderful little downtown area, has a university, and is very well educated and forward thinking small town. There are several incredible antebellum mansions nearby and a beautiful national forest a well.

As far as Mississippi and Alabama go, my favorite regions of either of those states would be the coasts. Gulfport/Biloxi/Pascagoula in MS, and Mobile in Alabama are all nice places deeply infused with a sense of the old South.

Hope this helps.
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Old 07-03-2009, 05:37 AM
 
Location: Greenville, Delaware
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I think you are being terribly naive about states in the Deep South. DON'T MOVE THERE! You'll be fine in Texas, North Carolina, Virginia. The Deep South is a racist, backwards, hyper-religious, provincial place. Find a smaller town around the Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill area of North Carolina, or around Asheville, NC (in the Smokey Mountains). You might like Chapel Hill itself, home to the University of North Carolina. Or somewhere near Austin, Texas -- only place in the state to live IMHO. In Virginia perhaps near Charlottesville, near the Blue Ridge Mountains and home to the University of Virginia. Forget about places like Miss., Louisiana and Alabama for goodness sake!

Have you researched the immigration requirements? I'm not sure you've got it together on that subject. May be more complicated than you think.

BTW I'd still be living in London if it weren't for tax liability on offshore assets and remittances. At the time my partner and I moved to the UK it was quite easy to progress to indefinite leave to remain and ultimately to British citizenship. I think you'll find a lot more obstacles to long-term settlement in the USA, however.

Feel free to DM me if I can help with more specific info or insights.
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Old 07-03-2009, 06:02 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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I think you are being terribly naive about states in the Deep South. DON'T MOVE THERE! You'll be fine in Texas, North Carolina, Virginia. The Deep South is a racist, backwards, hyper-religious, provincial place. Find a smaller town around the Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill area of North Carolina, or around Asheville, NC (in the Smokey Mountains). You might like Chapel Hill itself, home to the University of North Carolina. Or somewhere near Austin, Texas -- only place in the state to live IMHO. In Virginia perhaps near Charlottesville, near the Blue Ridge Mountains and home to the University of Virginia. Forget about places like Miss., Louisiana and Alabama for goodness sake!

Have you researched the immigration requirements? I'm not sure you've got it together on that subject. May be more complicated than you think.

BTW I'd still be living in London if it weren't for tax liability on offshore assets and remittances. At the time my partner and I moved to the UK it was quite easy to progress to indefinite leave to remain and ultimately to British citizenship. I think you'll find a lot more obstacles to long-term settlement in the USA, however.

Feel free to DM me if I can help with more specific info or insights.
Why is Austin the only place to live in the state of Texas. Houston, Dallas, and San Antonio would be just fine for her. If she is looking for anything like London, Houston or Dallas is her best bet.
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Old 07-03-2009, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Greenville, Delaware
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I believe the OP said she wants a small town! She's not looking for a London substitute. Austin, of course, is not a small town but she could live outside the city in a place like Dripping Springs, Wimberly, or Spicewood. However, I wanted to remind the OP that except in a few cities such as NYC, a car is pretty essential in America and certainly is likely to be so if she were to want to live in a small town outside a city. The fact is that America is in a major recession and finding employment isn't the easiest thing in the world. One may need to commute into the city for work. This is very different to London, which has an extensive and excellent public transport network (when I lived there I didn't own a car and got to work and everywhere else on the tube). America, of course, also doesn't have anything like the kind of inter-city train service that Britain does. Having your own transport is pretty close to an absolute necessity in this country.

Austin is cool. The other cities in Texas aren't -- sorry. I do like San Antonio, but to visit, not to live.

Some other thoughts for the OP -- Do NOT say anything to the people at the airport passport control about looking for a job in America. That would mean you would not be a bona fide tourist and they would not let you in! Also, you'd better have enough money to cover yourself for the length of your declared stay -- again, if you don't, they won't let you in. American passport control agents aren't nearly as nice as British ones (I know from experience after living in the UK and travelling there several times a year before and after living there). Remember, this isn't part of the EU or even the Commonwealth -- there isn't any special status for British visitors or would-be immigrants. The only thing you get is visa-free entry as a short term visitor.

About the Deep South -- in small towns they are likely to be rather xenophobic -- they don't particularly like outsiders/non-Southerners. Those are some of the few places in America where people may find an English person strange rather than thinking you are charming (English accents of almost any type of a huge cache in America).

If you insist on living in the Deep South, check out Charleston, South Carolina; or Savannah, Georgia -- both relatively small cities on the southeast coast. Charleston especially has a lot of people from outside the South, so is somewhat more sophisticated and cosmopolitan than much of the Deep South. I'm discounting Atlanta, because it's a huge city. In Charleston you could live on one of the islands or maybe in the old part of the city (if you could something affordable) and be in a really charming, self-contained area.

As far as Texas, I know what I'm talking about. I've lived a total of 22 years in Austin, and have also lived in Ft Worth, Dallas, Lubbock, Corpus Christi, and Beaumont. Yes, I may be biased, but my opinions are informed by personal direct life experience. I've lived in a small city in the Deep South too -- Monroe, Louisiana --ugh!!!
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Old 07-03-2009, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Again, what makes Austin the only city when you have Dallas and Houston? Have you explored either of these cities? As far as culture, fast pace, big city, we, Austin doesn't match up. Have you been to Austin in a last few years? It's not any different than Houston or Dallas. That is the problem that most Texans have with Austin. People think Austin is so different but in reality, it's just as Texan or cool as the next.
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Old 07-03-2009, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Alabama!
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I think you are being terribly naive about states in the Deep South. DON'T MOVE THERE! Forget about places like Miss., Louisiana and Alabama for goodness sake!
And I think you are being prejudicial toward Deep South states.
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Old 07-03-2009, 11:44 AM
 
Location: USA
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I've certainly known English people who lived in the deep south. Most of the deep south, if not AA or French, is English. Started in the low country of Georgia and the Carolinas and stayed in the coastal plain of the south. The Scotch-Irish live in the Highland areas of the South for the most part.

And when I say having known English in the deep south, I mean the born and bred there and immigrated over here.
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Old 07-03-2009, 11:47 AM
 
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I think it may be more difficult than you think to get a work visa. That being said, I have lived in Texas, the Northeast, and Mississippi. Have a beach place in Alabama. Also, I have spent a lot of time in London and have taught there at the Chelsea campus of King's College. I say this to give you a sense of where I am coming from.

You must have something in mind about the South that is more appealing than London. If it is sunshine--you will get plenty of that. The summers take some getting used to but with air conditioning in both home and car, I don't think it should be a deal breaker. You will not have the public transportation that you are used to and will be driving a whole lot more.

Whether you choose a rural area, a university town, a mid-sized city or a larger area like Mobile or Birmingham or the beach will make a big difference in your lifestyle. Pay attention to all of that. The Alabama beach area of Gulf Shores and the town of Fairhope are interesting. Houston is not my cup of tea and if you are leaving London I suspect you wouldn't appreciate it either. Check it out though.

We have had many British folks come here to Hattiesburg in Mississippi because of university exchange programs and they love it. Don't sell Alabama and Mississippi short. Particularly in the cities and coastal areas. Their reputations lag behind reality.

And, by the way. The post by doctorjef and his rant about racisim and provincialism is painting with a brush that is both broad and out of date. He doesn't know what he is talking about. But he has a point about Charleston, SC., beautiful place and area.
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