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Old 07-03-2009, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Greenville, Delaware
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The OP will likely learn that the Deep South is deeply influenced by conservative-evangelical and fundamentalist forms of Christianity, whose attitudes even infect the mainline denominations to an extent. Southerners tend to be homophobic, politically reactionary, patriotic in a way that is unreflective and jingoistic, and oftentimes racist even if they won't publically acknowledge it.

Austin, Texas has a laid back, liberal vibe that Dallas and Houston don't have and will never have. The heat is unremitting, however, with 40 degrees centigrade throughout much of the summer. Even aircon can only compensate for that up to a point (check on the threads on the Austin subforum).

I'd stay with Texas, Virginia or North Carolina. Charleston, South Carolina if you absolutely must be in the Deep South.
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Old 07-03-2009, 03:47 PM
 
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Why is Austin the only place to live in the state of Texas. Houston, Dallas, and San Antonio would be just fine for her. If she is looking for anything like London, Houston or Dallas is her best bet.

Now that made me laugh
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Old 07-03-2009, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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What's to laugh at? I wasn't comparing Houston or Dallas to London if that's where you're getting at.

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Austin, Texas has a laid back, liberal vibe that Dallas and Houston don't have and will never have. The heat is unremitting, however, with 40 degrees centigrade throughout much of the summer. Even aircon can only compensate for that up to a point (check on the threads on the Austin subforum).

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Yes, Austin is more laid back, afterall, it is a much smaller city than the big two of Texas. However, to say that Austin is more liberal than Dallas or Houston tells me that you haven't been around in Texas in the last four years. Dallas and Houston are just as liberal as Austin especially inside loop 610 in Houston and loop 12 in Dallas. Oh and Austin's hot weather in the summertime is no different than Dallas.
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Old 07-03-2009, 09:22 PM
 
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It amazes me that people like this doctorjef person in their hatred of us Southern people demonstrate the same qualities of close-mindedness and elitism that they accuse us Southern people of. It would be funny if it weren't so insulting and sad.

Anybody that says Southern people are not welcoming of outsiders and strangers has never lived in my part of the South apparently. Mean-spirited, elitist people like doctorjef, however, should be aware that as much as they hate us, we don't exactly want them down here either.
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Old 07-04-2009, 01:03 AM
 
Location: Northeast Texas
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The OP will likely learn that the Deep South is deeply influenced by conservative-evangelical and fundamentalist forms of Christianity, whose attitudes even infect the mainline denominations to an extent. Southerners tend to be homophobic, politically reactionary, patriotic in a way that is unreflective and jingoistic, and oftentimes racist even if they won't publically acknowledge it.
It is very much likely that you Northern Liberals still look at South as the past. I guess you watch too much liberal media.

Flustered, I warn you not to listen to doctorjef. We do not want Far-left people like doctorjef (I'm assuming from what he stated above) here in the South. They will only screw things up like they did in California.
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Old 07-04-2009, 01:19 AM
 
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I think that much worse is the Southerners on this board downplaying the extreme culture shock that a young girl from London is going to experience moving to a small town in the Deep Southern US.

I'm not trying to badger her here or anything, but she said she just decided to move to the South and googled those four states, and looked at pictures. That's the extent of her knowledge about it. Knowing nothing else but that, I feel it's our responsibility as Americans to tell her like it is.

Compared to London, it's going to be extremely conservative relative to what she's used to.

It's going to be extremely more religious and markedly more voyeuristic about religion.

She will experience xenophobia of some degree, especially in a small town. Many Americans can't even bring themselves to care for their fellow Americans, much less a foreigner. Especially with the impressions many get of Europeans as elitist socialists who hate America and never shave. Do any of you recall the fallout from France choosing not to join the coalition?

Fattening food(although I've never heard anyone speak highly of English food myself...), sedentary lifestyle, terrible obesity, high poverty, squalid education, all of these are demonstrably more evident in the Deep South than any other part of the nation.

If she wants to do it, no one's gonna stop her. But she clearly does not know much about the region and it's irresponsible to downplay the downsides to it. She should visit first before going through the hassle.
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Old 07-04-2009, 01:38 AM
 
Location: Key West
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I think that much worse is the Southerners on this board downplaying the extreme culture shock that a young girl from London is going to experience moving to a small town in the Deep Southern US.

I'm not trying to badger her here or anything, but she said she just decided to move to the South and googled those four states, and looked at pictures. That's the extent of her knowledge about it. Knowing nothing else but that, I feel it's our responsibility as Americans to tell her like it is.

Compared to London, it's going to be extremely conservative relative to what she's used to.

It's going to be extremely more religious and markedly more voyeuristic about religion.

She will experience xenophobia of some degree, especially in a small town. Many Americans can't even bring themselves to care for their fellow Americans, much less a foreigner. Especially with the impressions many get of Europeans as elitist socialists who hate America and never shave. Do any of you recall the fallout from France choosing not to join the coalition?

Fattening food(although I've never heard anyone speak highly of English food myself...), sedentary lifestyle, terrible obesity, high poverty, squalid education, all of these are demonstrably more evident in the Deep South than any other part of the nation.

If she wants to do it, no one's gonna stop her. But she clearly does not know much about the region and it's irresponsible to downplay the downsides to it. She should visit first before going through the hassle.
1) No city outside of San Fran is going to be as liberal as London here in America

2) if the OP goes to a large city in a state she is thinking about (Houston and Dallas) she will find a worldly atmosphere and cosmopolitan flair as well as endless opportunities that do not focus on the religion like a small in the middle of nowhere town might have.

There are many options down in the South. Stick to one of the large Texas cities and there will be very little culture shock except maybe because of less public transportation
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Old 07-04-2009, 01:49 AM
 
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1) No city outside of San Fran is going to be as liberal as London here in America

2) if the OP goes to a large city in a state she is thinking about (Houston and Dallas) she will find a worldly atmosphere and cosmopolitan flair as well as endless opportunities that do not focus on the religion like a small in the middle of nowhere town might have.

There are many options down in the South. Stick to one of the large Texas cities and there will be very little culture shock except maybe because of less public transportation
1) Exactly. And she should know that. So our conservative cities will be far right to her.

She says she wants a small town. I would definitely dissuade her from that and tell her to pick a larger city in the South to minimize the shock of adjustment. But there is nothing like what she's used to here and the implications of that need to be made very clear.
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Old 07-04-2009, 01:53 AM
 
Location: Key West
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1) Exactly. And she should know that. So our conservative cities will be far right to her.

She says she wants a small town. I would definitely dissuade her from that and tell her to pick a larger city in the South to minimize the shock of adjustment. But there is nothing like what she's used to here and the implications of that need to be made very clear.
Maybe a college town in Texas? San Marcos, Tyler, College Station? Because of the university presence it would be pretty nice. of course you are correct that anyplace in America is far right of London except San Fran
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Old 07-04-2009, 07:29 AM
 
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Don't be put off by the visa requirements, I myself an Englishman living in Chester, England have had several job offers from Texas and Florida. You have to be skilled in a certain subject with a degree of some type. I have a bachelors degree in Information Technology which pretty much puts me in a good position to get a job in any of the big U.S cities.

I have visited Florida and Georgia several times and the biggest things that hit me was the temperature. Both Florida and Georgia were very humid compared to England, I'd imagine this is the same for most of the southern states. So if you are going to live in the deep south, you should visit in the summer time to see if you can handle the temperatures.

That's just my advice for you, so apply at some large companies and hope you land an interview.
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