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Old 07-04-2009, 02:10 PM
 
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These lists are stupid. Some of these cities may be the worst place to raise a child if you are a lower-income worker, but may be the perfect place if you have money and can afford it. There are also many different reasons for what kind of environment people think of as "good" for children. And as far as graduation rates - well, that's obviously a bad thing for the kids who aren't graduating or who are a higher risk to not graduate, but as long as decent schools are available (and they are in many places, even many districts with low graduate rates) then a kid can still do just fine. And playgrounds are great, but that's only one factor. What about access to cultural opportunities? Decent public transportation or walkable streets so that older kids/teens aren't stuck at home or dependent on others to drive them around?
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Old 07-04-2009, 04:32 PM
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Agree...another dumb list by moronic journalists (thankfully jobs w/ever-lower wages and higher unemployment rates)

Many middle income families have been raising kids in suburbs of any city for some 30+ yrs now...many seem to prefer newer houses on >0.3 acres of land amongst other upwardly mobile families (and closer to many suburban HQs of major employers); public parks and libraries are so pre-suburban/pre-Net and just hangouts for homeless and/or pedophiles (and another excuse for higher income/property taxes)

Cities have been land of welfare recipients and ultra-wealthy families...and yuppies for decades

Only difference is, over past 30yrs, young middle-income, educated families have increasingly moved from suburbs of NYC or Chicago or LA or SF to suburbs of Dallas or Houston...and public schools have deteriorated everywhere in academic caliber, so many opt for private schools, even in affluent suburbs of both "old" cities like NYC/Chic and newer cities like Dall/Hou
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Old 07-05-2009, 09:04 AM
 
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Wow some of these are surprising!
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Old 07-05-2009, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia,New Jersey, NYC!
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This list is a joke because cities are huge. Raising a kid in Brownsville or the South Bronx is way different from raising a kid in the Upper East Side or in the village.
exactly, i know at least 3 families living in Manhattan. 2 in the UES - each with 3 kids. and 1 in Murray Hill w/2 kids..they seem very happy

those folks are making mucho $$$$ though


oh, and did you notice another worst list snuck in at the bottom of in that top 100 link?

The 10 Worst Places to Raise a Family (from best to worst)

10 Springfield, Missouri
9 Dayton, Ohio
8 Corpus Christi, Texas
7 Flint, Michigan — Country's highest violent-crime rate
6 Columbia, South Carolina
5 Waco, Texas
4 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
3 Fayetteville, North Carolina
2 Beaumont, Texas — Long-standing air-quality challenges
1 Clarksville, Tennessee — Low educational spending: $6,729 per student

what the hell??
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Old 07-05-2009, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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exactly, i know at least 3 families living in Manhattan. 2 in the UES - each with 3 kids. and 1 in Murray Hill w/2 kids..they seem very happy

those folks are making mucho $$$$ though


oh, and did you notice another worst list snuck in at the bottom of in that top 100 link?

The 10 Worst Places to Raise a Family (from best to worst)

10 Springfield, Missouri
9 Dayton, Ohio
8 Corpus Christi, Texas
7 Flint, Michigan Country's highest violent-crime rate
6 Columbia, South Carolina
5 Waco, Texas
4 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
3 Fayetteville, North Carolina
2 Beaumont, Texas Long-standing air-quality challenges
1 Clarksville, Tennessee Low educational spending: $6,729 per student

what the hell??
That list is much more realistic and makes sense imo.
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Old 07-05-2009, 10:28 AM
 
Location: St Paul, MN - NJ's Gold Coast
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Tenafly, NJ gets a bunch of hype for being a great place to raise a family... If you could afford it.

But those are big cities.
and NYC is listed in being the worst and the best ???
And most of those "best places to raise a family" are BORIINNNGGGG.
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Old 07-05-2009, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Concrete jungle where dreams are made of.
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And most of those "best places to raise a family" are BORIINNNGGGG.


That's true. I've read many times that Long Island is the safest suburb in the country, but it wasn't there probably because it's one of the most expensive suburbs in the country.
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Old 07-05-2009, 10:37 AM
 
Location: St Paul, MN - NJ's Gold Coast
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That's true. I've read many times that Long Island is the safest suburb in the country, but it wasn't there probably because it's one of the most expensive suburbs in the country.
I'm surprised no town in the NYC metro wasn't mentioned.
It has some of the best schools, best paying jobs, and with all the colleges and university in one area... I would easily list it as the best metro to raise a family, maybe behind Boston.
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Old 07-05-2009, 10:44 AM
 
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Not surprised about Syracuse. There are still plenty of nice neighborhoods within city limits, with some that are still affordable too. Schools are good pretty much everywhere in the area, with some exceptions and it is relatively safe too. It's in a good location as well and has enough to do to keep people from getting completely bored.
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Old 07-05-2009, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Concrete jungle where dreams are made of.
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Syracuse is a nice city to live a middle-class lifestyle.
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