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Old 07-05-2009, 03:15 PM
 
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Syracuse is a nice city to live a middle-class lifestyle.
You just need a decent job to be fine here.
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Old 07-05-2009, 04:59 PM
 
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How in the blue hell do playgrounds correlate to a city being a bad place to raise a family?
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Old 07-05-2009, 05:28 PM
 
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And most of those "best places to raise a family" are BORIINNNGGGG.
That's the point. Most of them are suburbs. The very point of suburbs for the modern day parent is to insulate and control one's exposure to reality. Essentially to "play it safe" in order to produce an offspring that's marginally successful yet blind to reality, and culturally bland and homogenous in every way. Like tv and video games, it's a way to switch on the parental autopilot and not have to look after one's kids or explain unpleasant(or pleasant at that) realities to them.

So when someone says a place is a "great place to raise a family!" what they really mean is "nothing remotely intriguing ever happens hear!".

Boy am I glad I never have to go through that.
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Old 07-05-2009, 09:16 PM
 
Location: hopefully NYC one day :D
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Is the NYC graduation rate really below 40%?!?!? I can see that for places like Brooklyn or the Bronx but what about Manhattan? Doesn't Manhattan have a lot of great high schools? Sure they may be expensive, but that's not what I'm talking about here.
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Old 07-05-2009, 10:46 PM
 
Location: Living in Hampton, VA
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Syracuse is a nice city to live a middle-class lifestyle.
That is true. My cousin moved there from Brooklyn back in the late eighties and was able to finish his education at Syracuse University and provide his 2 kids a pretty good environment.
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Old 07-06-2009, 04:31 AM
 
Location: Cold Frozen North
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That's the point. Most of them are suburbs. The very point of suburbs for the modern day parent is to insulate and control one's exposure to reality. Essentially to "play it safe" in order to produce an offspring that's marginally successful yet blind to reality, and culturally bland and homogenous in every way. Like tv and video games, it's a way to switch on the parental autopilot and not have to look after one's kids or explain unpleasant(or pleasant at that) realities to them.

So when someone says a place is a "great place to raise a family!" what they really mean is "nothing remotely intriguing ever happens hear!".

Boy am I glad I never have to go through that.
I know that if I was raising a family, I would vastly prefer the 'boring' suburbs to city living. I would not want any kids I have to get caught up in the negative goings on in the city. Hell, I'm single and I prefer the suburbs over the city. Urban living is not for everyone. Live and let live.
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Old 07-06-2009, 08:29 AM
 
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To each his own. I don't want my kids getting caught up in the negative goings on in the suburbs.
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Old 07-06-2009, 09:05 AM
 
Location: St Paul, MN - NJ's Gold Coast
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You can put your kids in private schools in major cities, I think there's more kids in private schools throughout NYC than they have in the public schools... It's just to keep your kids from harms way so they can get the proper education and be around the kids who are receiving the same education. At the same time they don't have to be in a boring far away suburb, but be in a major city with stuff to do so that a persons childhood isn't a suburban bore.

You can level it out either way, i would just prefer the major city lifestyle over the suburb lifestyle as a child growing up.

I guess it all depends on how fat your wallet is.
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Old 07-06-2009, 09:59 AM
 
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If you have a habit of wandering around ignorantly, moving to any random point within a given city limits, then I could see how this list is useful.

For the rest of us who don't think statisical analyses are capable of determining the best and worst places to raise a family, we will just have to go with what we can see.
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Old 07-06-2009, 10:35 AM
 
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If you have a habit of wandering around ignorantly, moving to any random point within a given city limits, then I could see how this list is useful.

For the rest of us who don't think statisical analyses are capable of determining the best and worst places to raise a family, we will just have to go with what we can see.
That's a great point - for us, playgrounds are important. That's why we moved to a neighborhood with easy playground access. Same thing with public transportation, and eventually, access to quality public schools. In every city I've ever lived in there have been some neighborhoods that would be great for us as a family, other neighborhoods that would be terrible. Looking at it city-by-city on a big level (graduation rates, etc.) provides some useful data for some purposes, but for individuals looking for a place to live these lists don't really do much good.
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