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Old 07-05-2009, 11:21 AM
 
Location: IN
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Their map of the Omaha Metro for some odd reason excludes 2 of the Iowa counties that are also apart of it.
True, but the Census actually includes three Iowa counties as part of the Omaha, NE metro. I really think that only Pottawatomie County should be included.
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Old 07-05-2009, 11:59 AM
 
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Their map of the Omaha Metro for some odd reason excludes 2 of the Iowa counties that are also apart of it.
Maybe they weren't part of the metro in 1980? Just a guess

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But there's also a reason why it's a cheaper cost of living.
Indeed. Better, more efficient infrastructure. More efficient government, lower taxes, better conditions for business development and thus job creation. More freedom for property owners and for people to live where they want to live (saner zoning laws). These things bring costs down ... cheaper doesn't necessarily mean worse quality.
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Old 07-05-2009, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Concrete jungle where dreams are made of.
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Maybe they weren't part of the metro in 1980? Just a guess



Indeed. Better, more efficient infrastructure. More efficient government, lower taxes, better conditions for business development and thus job creation. More freedom for property owners and for people to live where they want to live (saner zoning laws). These things bring costs down ... cheaper doesn't necessarily mean worse quality.
Ask on the NYC forum where NYers moved down south because they saw more house for the price. Most of them say there's a reason why it's cheaper, and they aren't good reasons.
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Old 07-05-2009, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Oak Park, IL
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It reminds me a lot of the urban equivalent of slash-and-burn farming.
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Old 07-05-2009, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Maybe they weren't part of the metro in 1980? Just a guess

They weren't, but what confused me was that they included a county that also wasn't apart of the metro until the other 2 Iowa counties joined.
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Old 07-05-2009, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Omaha
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True, but the Census actually includes three Iowa counties as part of the Omaha, NE metro. I really think that only Pottawatomie County should be included.
Going by their standards for MSA's, they should count. The same can be said for every metro in the US. Each has some fairly rural areas accounted for.

I think it's somewhat hokie for how they determine metro's, but there must not be a feasable alternative I guess.
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Old 07-05-2009, 04:15 PM
 
Location: IN
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Going by their standards for MSA's, they should count. The same can be said for every metro in the US. Each has some fairly rural areas accounted for.

I think it's somewhat hokie for how they determine metro's, but there must not be a feasable alternative I guess.
I think the Census MSA determination is overly dependent on commuting patterns of some residents who happen to live on the exurban fringe of metros. Two counties in Iowa are included in the Omaha MSA that have little growth and densities of under 50 people per square mile. The same can also be said of KC as well (Linn County KS, Caldwell County MO, Lafayette County MO,).
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Old 07-05-2009, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Omaha
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I think the Census MSA determination is overly dependent on commuting patterns of some residents who happen to live on the exurban fringe of metros. Two counties in Iowa are included in the Omaha MSA that have little growth and densities of under 50 people per square mile. The same can also be said of KC as well (Linn County KS, Caldwell County MO, Lafayette County MO,).
Very true. I do happen to know a very large portion of Mills county in Iowa commute to Omaha and Council Bluffs for work.
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Old 07-05-2009, 05:48 PM
 
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It reminds me a lot of the urban equivalent of slash-and-burn farming.
Yeah, the Atlanta metro is particularly vomit-worthy.
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Old 07-05-2009, 07:38 PM
 
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My question would be, does this map reflect the foreclosure crisis? It appears the data was from 2008. Not sure it is a good indication of where things stand today. On one hand, areas like the Inland Empire of CA, Vegas, and Phoenix show explosive growth. On the other hand, they are hurting big-time. On the mythical third hand, perhaps these areas will grow again due to cheaper prices.
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