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Old 11-17-2012, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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^^ Miami does fall below 40 degrees ocassionally... and its western areas could easily fall below 32
as far as I am concern when you have temps that low... there is no way you could be in a "tropical climate"

now summer is a different story... It might as well be as hot or hotter than the islands in the carribean
I agree. Frosts and even two (maybe more) occurences of snow flurries definately disprove the common thought of South Florida being tropical. It is subtropical, that is fact. Heck, even the average nighttime lows in winter are in the 50s. True tropical places, like Hawaii, rarely ever see that!
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Old 11-17-2012, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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I agree. Frosts and even two (maybe more) occurences of snow flurries definately disprove the common thought of South Florida being tropical. It is subtropical, that is fact. Heck, even the average nighttime lows in winter are in the 50s. True tropical places, like Hawaii, rarely ever see that!
You seem to think that Hawaii is some tropical haven. It's not lol. To you everything on the west coast is warm and the east is not. Compare Honolulu to a TRUE tropical city La Romana, in the DR.

East Coast/Atlantic Ocen FTW.

Average Weather for La Romana, * - Temperature and Precipitation

Average Weather for Honolulu, HI - Temperature and Precipitation

Stay with your cold waters. Find me a place in Hawaii that's warmer than ANYTHING in the caribbean. You want to pick on Miami? Ok. Two can play that game.
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Old 11-17-2012, 03:57 PM
 
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Rio Grande Valley in deep South Texas sure has a lot of palm trees as well.
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Old 11-17-2012, 04:07 PM
 
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I agree. Frosts and even two (maybe more) occurences of snow flurries definately disprove the common thought of South Florida being tropical. It is subtropical, that is fact. Heck, even the average nighttime lows in winter are in the 50s. True tropical places, like Hawaii, rarely ever see that!
I'm not gonna lie, Florida get's KILLED by those cold-fronts. And this happens annually. Having said that, it isn't a daily thing. It usually happens for a week or so, and then goes back to the 70 degree range.
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Old 11-17-2012, 06:21 PM
 
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Arizona. They're everywhere there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Shaw.
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I agree. Frosts and even two (maybe more) occurences of snow flurries definately disprove the common thought of South Florida being tropical. It is subtropical, that is fact. Heck, even the average nighttime lows in winter are in the 50s. True tropical places, like Hawaii, rarely ever see that!
Miami only once recorded snow flurries exactly twice and the second was only spotted by trained observers.

Anyway, Miami fits the textbook definition of a tropical climate. Is it colder than Hawaii? Of course. But it's not much different from San Juan.

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^^ Miami does fall below 40 degrees ocassionally... and its western areas could easily fall below 32
Yeah, but you have to admit that this is extremely rare. It's certainly not an annual occurrence. If temperatures drop below freezing, it's pushing the record.
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:16 AM
 
Location: 602/520
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Miami only once recorded snow flurries exactly twice and the second was only spotted by trained observers.

Anyway, Miami fits the textbook definition of a tropical climate. Is it colder than Hawaii? Of course. But it's not much different from San Juan.
Miami does not fit the textbook definition of a tropical climate. You, yourself, stated that Miami has seen snow flurries twice. Snow is not in the textbook definition of tropical. Miami's record low temperature is 27 degrees. Freezes, especially hard freezes, do not fit in the definition of tropical. The tropics fall between the Tropic of Cancer and the Tropic of Capricorn. Miami does not fall between the two. In fact, no part of Florida does. This means that Miami and the Keys do not receive the high sun angles, nor the daylight length that tropical areas receive.

Miami's winters are nothing like San Juan's. San Juan has an average January high/low temperature of 83/65. Miami's averages are almost 10 degrees lower than that. San Juan's record low temperature is 45 degrees, almost 20 degrees warmer than the coldest Miami's ever seen. If you actually lived in South Florida, you would also know that our winter cold fronts die out well before they get to Puerto Rico.

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Yeah, but you have to admit that this is extremely rare. It's certainly not an annual occurrence. If temperatures drop below freezing, it's pushing the record.
Temperatures drop to around freezing pretty much every winter during cold snaps in inland Dade and Broward. Temperatures drop into the upper 30s to low 40s during our winter cold snaps closer to the coast. Growing up in Miami, I remember temperatures dropping into the mid 30s several times during the winter.

Just give up the idea that Miami is tropical. It's not. Is it closer to being tropical than any other major city in the lower 48? Yes. But tropical it is not. Hawaii is the only state with a true tropical climate.
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Old 11-18-2012, 03:49 PM
 
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Hawaii doesn't freakin count.....

they're not part of the mainland where 99% of the population lives. Let's focus on that.

I'd say Miami and south Florida has the most palms. Followed by Southern Cal.
In south florida there are a lot more varities of palms supported there, where as in southern Cal, there's about 4 diff kinds supported there.

I love palm trees either way. They just make things look nice. I could be stuck in traffic on the freeway, but my window down, sun is shining and some palms swaying in the breeze.... I'm chillen. It relaxes me
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Old 11-18-2012, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Portlandia "burbs"
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Palm Springs-Palm Desert, etc. have a lot of palm trees; however, a few miles outside of Palm Springs, in the Indian Canyons (reservation) is Palm Canyon, a magnficient cluster of gigantic palm trees that stretch for miles. I met some avid travelers who said that they'd been to the Middle East numerous times and never saw anything like it.

The picture does not do it justice.
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Old 11-19-2012, 02:46 AM
 
Location: Hernando County, FL
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You want palms? We got palms.
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