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Old 07-08-2009, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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I know that's a fairly cryptic title. By "gold coast" I refer not to a literal coastal area with high rises but rather to the Claritas market segment "Urban Gold Coasts." It could also be segments like "Money and Brains," "Young Digerati," Uptown Bohemian," etc.
Let's see..Like the Bay Area with water but without the lefties and too expensive..hmmm...

Off the top of my head...

Lake County, IL
King County, WA(Bellevue area in particular)
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Old 07-08-2009, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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They remind me of a high strung version of Parisians. A bit mal eleve compared with the real McCoy.
Sometimes its refreshing to find that in the U.S.


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One thing in common with Paris is, most people here are not really from here. Same deal in Paris.
I can see how you'd feel that way. Today, about 55% of the Bay Area is either foreign born or the child of a foreign born resident.

But ya know, we still manage to be a very successful place even though so many newcomers are here.
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Old 07-08-2009, 10:24 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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By baggage I refer to political leftism, high taxation, anti American attitudes, etc.

Are suggesting that people to the left of you are anti-American? Or, are you suggesting that the Bay Area is too left for you?

Most of South Florida qualifies as Gold Coast and is certainly more "left" than the country as a whole but not nearly as "left" as the SF Bay Area.

As someone who is probably Left of your political viewpoint, I take exception to political leftism being lumped together with anti-American attitudes. After all, I don't subscribe to the notion that pro-American is necessarily owned by those who are politically to the right.
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Old 07-08-2009, 10:51 PM
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Many from SF region who dislike communist ethos of SF or Palo Alto live in slightly more capitalist Woodside or Atherton and have wkend houses on LA's refreshingly pro-capitalist Westside (esp N of Sunset BH, Brentwood or Palisades), which seems to attract many like-minded capitalist/hedonist wkend residents from Dallas, Chic, Seattle, etc

NYC's UES or Chic's Gold Coast are relatively old-fashioned capitalist bastions (w/superb restaurants and bars), but capitalist suburbs like Greenwich or Winnetka tend to have awful grub/grocery stores/bars (and drive into Manhattan or Chic for grub is far more arduous than comparable drives on SF Peninsula or LA's Westside)

Problem of highly educated wealth anywhere is one faces many annoying (but often amusingly hypocritical) "Gulfstream communists", even (or perhaps especially) in "overeducated" capitalist epicenters like NYC or SV
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Old 07-09-2009, 03:47 PM
 
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Many from SF region who dislike communist ethos of SF or Palo Alto live in slightly more capitalist Woodside or Atherton and have wkend houses on LA's refreshingly pro-capitalist Westside (esp N of Sunset BH, Brentwood or Palisades), which seems to attract many like-minded capitalist/hedonist wkend residents from Dallas, Chic, Seattle, etc

NYC's UES or Chic's Gold Coast are relatively old-fashioned capitalist bastions (w/superb restaurants and bars), but capitalist suburbs like Greenwich or Winnetka tend to have awful grub/grocery stores/bars (and drive into Manhattan or Chic for grub is far more arduous than comparable drives on SF Peninsula or LA's Westside)

Problem of highly educated wealth anywhere is one faces many annoying (but often amusingly hypocritical) "Gulfstream communists", even (or perhaps especially) in "overeducated" capitalist epicenters like NYC or SV
"Gulfstream communists" - good one!!!
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Old 07-09-2009, 03:52 PM
 
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I can see how you'd feel that way. Today, about 55% of the Bay Area is either foreign born or the child of a foreign born resident.
What I found in Paris was that even most of the Frenchmen there were not from there. Most were actually from other cities (most commonly Marseille, Aix Au Provence, Lyon, etc) or from "Le Podunkville." Meanwhile many born in Paris have moved to the far Paris exurbs, to smaller cities elsewhere in France, or, have left the country completely.
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Old 07-09-2009, 04:48 PM
 
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I'm in similar straits as a far-right atheist. My idea of hell would be to have a Nascar track on one side and an ivy league college on the other.

I'm a product of the the small-city Northeast where republicans abound but country music and radio evangelists do not. People go to church but mostly for social reasons. Too bad the climate s*ucks.

My idea of heaven would be CA in the 60s. The loony left was making a lot of noise but hadn't taken power yet.
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Old 07-09-2009, 06:18 PM
 
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I know that's a fairly cryptic title. By "gold coast" I refer not to a literal coastal area with high rises but rather to the Claritas market segment "Urban Gold Coasts." It could also be segments like "Money and Brains," "Young Digerati," Uptown Bohemian," etc.

By baggage I refer to political leftism, high taxation, anti American attitudes, etc.

Essentially, what I want is a place that has the feel, cosmopolitanism, etc of where I'm at now (San Francisco Metro) but without all the loopy "extras" that seem to come along with it.

It this an oxymoron? Is there something in people who are in banking, high tech, international biz, media, entertainment / infotainment, Web 2.0, etc which makes them radical Fabians, innately?

Do I have to take a downgrade in terms of the things I like (varied restos, good clubs with late hours, art house films, etc), to be with normal Americans?

I know this is sort of open ended.

Just looking for some thoughts.

Try Houston......Maybe Charlotte.
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Old 07-09-2009, 07:28 PM
 
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Houston ... interesting thought.
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Old 07-09-2009, 10:19 PM
 
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Try New Orleans.
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