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Old 07-08-2009, 06:23 PM
 
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I know that's a fairly cryptic title. By "gold coast" I refer not to a literal coastal area with high rises but rather to the Claritas market segment "Urban Gold Coasts." It could also be segments like "Money and Brains," "Young Digerati," Uptown Bohemian," etc.

By baggage I refer to political leftism, high taxation, anti American attitudes, etc.

Essentially, what I want is a place that has the feel, cosmopolitanism, etc of where I'm at now (San Francisco Metro) but without all the loopy "extras" that seem to come along with it.

It this an oxymoron? Is there something in people who are in banking, high tech, international biz, media, entertainment / infotainment, Web 2.0, etc which makes them radical Fabians, innately?

Do I have to take a downgrade in terms of the things I like (varied restos, good clubs with late hours, art house films, etc), to be with normal Americans?

I know this is sort of open ended.

Just looking for some thoughts.

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Old 07-08-2009, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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I know what you're saying, but I think any urban area that has the cosmopolitan amenities that you enjoy will also innately attract the element that is annoying to you. In your case you happen to be in the most extreme case of this in the country. Maybe if you moved to a city where left wing politics are not pushed in your face as much as in the bay area you could better deal with it? I don't think you could ever completely separate the two when considering the cities that have the best cultural amenities, at least not in this day and age.
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Old 07-08-2009, 06:58 PM
 
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I'd try Chicago. It's not going to be conservative, but what respectable city really is? At least Chicagoans are accepting, relatively laid back, and won't shove it in your face like those in San Fran will.

Good Luck!!!!!
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Old 07-08-2009, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Coastal Northeast
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Fairfield County, CT (between Greenwich and Fairfield). No "in your face" politics, very wealthy area, and fairly conservative (more fiscal than social, however). Live and let live.

Only downside is bars/clubs close at 2, but NYC is less than an hour away where they close at 4. A second downside is cost of housing, but coming from the Bay area, it shouldn't shock you.
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Old 07-08-2009, 08:48 PM
 
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Wow, NYC exurbs got mentioned less than 5 posts into it. Interestingly, times I've been to NYC itself, it felt more "American" to me than here in the Bay Area. I'm not just referring to the remnant of colonial history, I'm also describing something about the people and the vibe. This is cool ... would love to get more thoughts.
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Old 07-08-2009, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Concrete jungle where dreams are made of.
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Where have you been in the exurbs? There's Great neck (where the Great gatsby took place), Muttontown, Old Westbury, Oyster Bay cove. All on the north shore of Nassau county, only about 10-15 miles from the city border.
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Old 07-08-2009, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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Wow, NYC exurbs got mentioned less than 5 posts into it. Interestingly, times I've been to NYC itself, it felt more "American" to me than here in the Bay Area.
Hell, most of Canada feels more American than here.

People in SF, Oakland and Berkeley remind me so much of Parisians.
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Old 07-08-2009, 09:29 PM
 
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Where have you been in the exurbs? There's Great neck (where the Great gatsby took place), Muttontown, Old Westbury, Oyster Bay cove. All on the north shore of Nassau county, only about 10-15 miles from the city border.
I've been a bit into Nassau, but most of my experience in the NYC metro outside the City has been in Westchester and over in Jersey.
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Old 07-08-2009, 09:31 PM
 
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Hell, most of Canada feels more American than here.

People in SF, Oakland and Berkeley remind me so much of Parisians.
They remind me of a high strung version of Parisians. A bit mal eleve compared with the real McCoy. One thing in common with Paris is, most people here are not really from here. Same deal in Paris.
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Old 07-08-2009, 09:31 PM
 
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I've been a bit into Nassau, but most of my experience in the NYC metro outside the City has been in Westchester and over in Jersey.

Check out north shore Nassau county, minus Glen Cove.
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