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Old 06-08-2007, 06:43 PM
 
Location: In God
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Wait, aren't you that same girl, woman or lady who thinks Houston's nightlife is superior to NY city's?
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I guess any city that has density is eurocentric to density deficit Houstoners. It does feel like one is visiting Europe after dealing with all that lack of density. And even the most dense area like midtown is considered spread out by San Francisco's standards, so don't tell me minimum sprawl is not sprawl.
Regardless of the fact that Houston is sprawled, does not mean that I been confined to a car my whole stay. When I first moved to the city, I walked everywhere. That is not a suburban quality. Besides, some areas of Houston are just as dense as some areas of Chicago.

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And eurocentric is a positive thing
To who?! Surely not me or anyone I know for that matter. We are not Europeans. We are Americans.

Look, I travel extensively around this country. I know what diversity is. San Francisco may be a little, but compared to NY, LA, HOU, and CHI it doesn't come very close. I've had my fair share of experiences all over this globe, so I think I know what I'm talking about. Same thing goes for the culture, so it doesn't matter what people think they know about Houston or any other city in the south. Now as far as me discrediting San Francisco as a great city, I do not have to explain myself to anybody as to why my feelings on that are justified. So seeing as how this has fallen a bit off topic, I don't think this needs to be discussed any further.
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Old 06-08-2007, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Well New York, Los Angeles, and Houston are the major ones. Chicago should probably be named as well. DC and Miami not as much. They're probably as diverse as Dallas or Atlanta.
DC and Miami not as much? Have you been to Northern Virginia and Southern Dade County lately.

DC has the largest Indian-Asian population in the United States. They have a large number of Ghanians and Ethiopians. They have one of the largest Brazilian populations as well in the country. DC is as much a melting pot as Houston.

Miami is as well. Houston may have more hispanics. But Miami has more of a mix of hispnics that Houston cannot touch. I'm sorry, but Miami is known as the Gateway to the Latin America. They have the largest of the following groups in the south: Cubans, Puerto Ricans, Dominicans (three groups that are not large in Houston), Nicaraguans, Panamians, etc. They also have a large number of Islanders. There is no city in the US that has more Caribbean people than Miami other than NYC. Miami is rivals with Toronto as the most multicultural city in North America.

And while Atlanta is known as a Black and White city. Dallas not so much. It's not as diverse as Houston. But it can hold it's own with Houston in that argument. But to say DC and Miami isn't a melting pot but Houston is 100% false. Houston is w/o doubt, a huge melting pot with languages spoken from around the world. But Miami and DC is as well including San Francisco who has a large number of Europeans, and Asians.
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Old 06-08-2007, 07:19 PM
 
Location: In God
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DC and Miami not as much? Have you been to Northern Virginia and Southern Dade County lately.

DC has the largest Indian-Asian population in the United States. They have a large number of Ghanians and Ethiopians. They have one of the largest Brazilian populations as well in the country. DC is as much a melting pot as Houston.

Miami is as well. Houston may have more hispanics. But Miami has more of a mix of hispnics that Houston cannot touch. I'm sorry, but Miami is known as the Gateway to the Latin America. They have the largest of the following groups in the south: Cubans, Puerto Ricans, Dominicans (three groups that are not large in Houston), Nicaraguans, Panamians, etc. They also have a large number of Islanders. There is no city in the US that has more Caribbean people than Miami other than NYC. Miami is rivals with Toronto as the most multicultural city in North America.
Then why are there 85+ consulars in Houston? Beaten only by New York and Los Angeles. Having the most of a particular nationality does not exactly mean diverse. Still, I never said those cities weren't diverse, just not as much as Houston.

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Dallas not so much. It's not as diverse as Houston. But it can hold it's own with Houston in that argument.
What does that mean?
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Old 06-08-2007, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Then why are there 85+ consulars in Houston? Beaten only by New York and Los Angeles. Having the most of a particular nationality does not exactly mean diverse. Still, I never said those cities weren't diverse, just not as much as Houston.
You can have those consulates. But do you have the numbers and the presence. Does Houston have a large Ghanian and Ethiopian presence like DC does? Does Houston have a large Puerto Rican, Dominican, Cuban, a larger South American and Central American presence like Miami does? DC has thousands of Middle Easterners just like Houston. My answer to both those questions are no because there are not many of those groups in Houston. Whereas I can also say you won't find a large Nigerian or Mexican presence in DC and a large Vietnamese, or Hawaii/Pacific population in Miami like you can in Houston.
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What does that mean?
It means while Houston does have a larger group of people than Dallas and is obviously more diverse, Dallas is not far behind as well. Houston has more, however Dallas is not that far behind.

If you want to see the figures on how many people of each group especially the hispanic group a city has. Go to mumford's data.

Last edited by Spade; 06-08-2007 at 07:57 PM.. Reason: got it right this time lol.
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Old 06-09-2007, 07:56 AM
 
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Detroit: Definately the worst major U.S. city I have ever been to. It's a shame because at one time it was a major manufacturing center. There's potholes everywhere. During the wintertime, the streets are never cleared of snow, gunshots heard all over the place. Just a depressing city. Like Cleveland, but just bigger. There's also a difference in wealth from the city proper to the suburbs. The suburbs are nice, but the city is a dump. I don't think Detroit will ever get out of this economic situation. If it does, I would be surprised, but it would take a long time before that would happen.
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Old 06-14-2007, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Texas!
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You have to be tough as nails. Don't let it get the best of you, but it's actually very mild and windy down here right now.
I think some people exaggarate about the heat. I mean its hot as hell in Housotn but to me the heat isn't like the way people make it seem, but I guess you have to live there to actually get use to it.
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Old 06-15-2007, 01:03 AM
 
Location: Renton, WA
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Phoenix!

Most unimpressive place I have ever been. There is such a hype for this place. Sounds like this oasis in the desert and everyone seems to be moving here. But it is the biggest letdown. This place lacks culture, real neighborhoods, transit, nightlife, and soul...pretty much the things that make a city enjoyable to live in! This place is like living in a big, sprawling, dusty suburb. BLAH!
Tell me, specifically, why you think that Phoenix "lacks culture, real neighborhoods, transit, nightlife, and soul." I disagree with that. Phoenix has outstanding culture, many great neighborhoods, a excellent transportation infrastructure, nightlife and soul.
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Old 06-15-2007, 01:07 AM
 
Location: Renton, WA
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New York City is not impressive to me. I can't understand how so many people can live in such crowded conditions. Living in a high-rise apartment building is like living in a box in a high stack of boxes.

Give me a city like Phoenix where a person with modest income can buy their own detached home on a private lot, and there are many people but they aren't crowded together with immense density.
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Old 06-15-2007, 09:15 AM
 
Location: The great state of New Hampshire
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New York City is not impressive to me. I can't understand how so many people can live in such crowded conditions. Living in a high-rise apartment building is like living in a box in a high stack of boxes.

Give me a city like Phoenix where a person with modest income can buy their own detached home on a private lot, and there are many people but they aren't crowded together with immense density.


While I don't care for Phoenix, I have some of the same sentiments about NY and even as someone who has lived in the Bronx, Brooklyn Heights, and the burbs. I wish when the topic is New York we could separate the discussion amongst the boroughs, Manhattan particualrly. IF you can afford Manhattan and can deal with the ridiculous authoritarian state Bloomberg has created there, it is a great city in itself. Staten Island, Brooklyn, Queens, and the Bronx by in large are dumps. I am a convinced because of local's provincialism and what the mainstream media molds outsiders to believe, these places seem at least decent where as if the people and infrastructure suddenly was interchanged with say, Toledo, everyone would be disparaging these boroughs as being hell on earth.
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Old 06-15-2007, 09:38 AM
 
Location: In God
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While I don't care for Phoenix, I have some of the same sentiments about NY and even as someone who has lived in the Bronx, Brooklyn Heights, and the burbs. I wish when the topic is New York we could separate the discussion amongst the boroughs, Manhattan particualrly. IF you can afford Manhattan and can deal with the ridiculous authoritarian state Bloomberg has created there, it is a great city in itself. Staten Island, Brooklyn, Queens, and the Bronx by in large are dumps. I am a convinced because of local's provincialism and what the mainstream media molds outsiders to believe, these places seem at least decent where as if the people and infrastructure suddenly was interchanged with say, Toledo, everyone would be disparaging these boroughs as being hell on earth.
Nah, the outer boroughs are the real New York City. Don't get me wrong, Lower Manhattan and Midtown are great, but the other boroughs and areas are where all the character and flavor is.
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