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Old 02-01-2008, 06:19 PM
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Some of this just amazes me. ALL of PA is Northeastern.

As for the semantics of East Coast. Well the East is not like the West.

Once you leave the west coast cities, there's not much, but the Eastern U.S. is different. East Coast doesn't work as term like that.

Not to mention the Northeast (Pgh, DC on up) is not the same as Southeast.

The West coast is considered the same region.
California is considered quite a bit different from Washington and Oregon, which are the Pacific NW, along with western Idaho.
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Old 02-01-2008, 10:45 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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How convenient to dismiss the following:

Princeton (NJ)
Harvard (MA)
Yale (CT)
Cornell (NY)...just to name a 'few'

I suppose everyone in the west is 'happy' and depression is a none-issue. I suppose there are no slums and perhaps 'clean' gutters, etc. And I'm sure everyone loves hot weather in the winter (for sure) and boiling weather in the summer (not so sure)

I'm certain if everything were indeed as peachy on your end then NV wouldn't be rated one of the highest crime states. Only to be followed by NM and Arizona.

Most Dangerous States, 2007 — Infoplease.com

The NE, by whatever definition it is listed, is fast-paced for sure, but that can be seen as a trait to be enjoyed by some but not liked by all.
The Ivy League and Northeast college concept is SOOO overrated. So many students from NJ and NY come down to the University of Maryland because their state schools are crappy....look at Rutgers for example. Maryland is #17 in public schools. Now....

Prestigious Universities Outside the Northeast....hmmm

Duke - Durham, NC
UNC - Chapel Hill, NC
Univ of Virginia - Charlottesville, VA
Georgia Tech - Atlanta
Virginia Tech - Blacksburg, VA

Tulane - New Orleans
Rice University - Houston
UT Austin - Austin, TX
Texas A&M - College Station, Texas
Johns Hopkins - Baltimore
College of William and Mary - Williamsburg, VA

US Naval Academy - Annapolis, Maryland
US Air Force Academy - Colorado Springs, CO
Wake Forest - Winston-Salem, North Carolina
Clemson - Clemson, South Carolina
University of Michigan - Ann Arbor, MI

UC Berkeley
UCLA
UC-San Diego
UC-Riverside
UC- Santa Barbara
University of Southern California

CalTech
University of Chicago
Northwestern University - Oak Park, Illinois
Washington University - St. Louis

There are also other respected schools like Florida State, Univ. of Florida, Univ. of Georgia, Univ of Illinois-Urbana-Champaign, NC State, Purdue, Brigham Young, Arizona State, Univ of Arizona, etc etc though these are probably a lower tier than the ones mentioned above, though still very respectable.

Boston may have over 100 colleges, but only MIT, Harvard are ones I really respect. Boston College and Boston University are inferior to the Univ of Maryland both academically, ranking wise, and athletically. U-Mass sucks and is ranked very low compared to Maryland.
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Old 02-01-2008, 11:10 PM
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From the 2005 US News "America's Best Colleges", the top 50 Best National Universities, minus the Northeastern schools in order of rank:

Duke University, NC
Stanford University, CA
California Institute of Technology, CA
Northwestern UNiversity, IL
Washington U. in St. Louis, MO
JOhns Hopkins U, MD
University of Chicago, IL
Rice U, TX
U. of Notre Dame, IN
Vanderbilt U, TN
Emory U, GA
U. of Cal-Berkely, CA
U. of Michigan-Ann Arbor, MI
U. of Virginia, VA
U. of N. Carolina-Chapel Hill, NC
U. of S. California, CA
College of William and Mary, VA
U. of Wisconsin-Madison, WI
Case Western Reserve U, OH
U. of Cali-San Diego, CA
U of Illinois-Urbana-Champaign, IL
Georigia Institute of Technology, GA
U of Cali-Davis, CA
Tulane U, LA
U of Cali-Irvine, CA
U of Cali-Santa Barbara, CA
U of Texas-Austin, TX
U of Washington, WA
U of Florida, FL

A little different from Terrapin's list off the top of his head.
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Old 02-02-2008, 12:15 AM
 
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Actually, Pennsylvania does border the ocean. Part of it lines the Delaware Estuary.

The only time I've heard the term "East Coast" used is when it was referring to the genre of rap (which usually encompasses Mass., NY, NJ, Penn., Mary., and Vir.).
Forget about Connecticut and Rhode Island?
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Old 02-02-2008, 12:34 AM
 
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The Ivy League and Northeast college concept is SOOO overrated. So many students from NJ and NY come down to the University of Maryland because their state schools are crappy....look at Rutgers for example. Maryland is #17 in public schools. Now....

Boston may have over 100 colleges, but only MIT, Harvard are ones I really respect. Boston College and Boston University are inferior to the Univ of Maryland both academically, ranking wise, and athletically. U-Mass sucks and is ranked very low compared to Maryland.
It's odd how you posted NJ and NY schools are crappy - the northeastern states (particularly NJ and up) consistently rank highest in public education. MA, CT and NJ are always the top three most educated states. Connecticut is said to have the best state university system than any of the 49 other states. It's not because the schools are crappy, it's because the more south you go, the cheaper the schools generally become. Also many kids just want to get away from home while still being within a days drive for convenience.

Only MIT and Harvard are ones you really respect? What about Boston College, Bentley, WPI, Northeastern, Boston University, etc.? All of these schools are fine institutions, much better than the vast majority listed above.

In Connecticut, you didn't mention Connecticut College, Wesleyan University, Trinity, Quinnipiac, Yale, Fairfield University and of course, the state school of UCONN (ranked the best public school in the nation for your money).

Before people start discussing education, I'd highly suggest we look up true facts rather than molding them to fit one opinion.
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Old 02-02-2008, 01:11 PM
 
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[quote=Terrapin2212;2699825]The Ivy League and Northeast college concept is SOOO overrated. So many students from NJ and NY come down to the University of Maryland because their state schools are crappy....look at Rutgers for example. Maryland is #17 in public schools.

well, two things: I don't know how you go from universities to public school systems...and secondly isn't Maryland often grouped in with the NorthEast anyway?

State schools are crappy, weak at best but everyone's entitled to their own. Rutgers is actually rated as one of the better 'bang for buck' schools, and I'm certain that people who go to Princeton aren't all from NJ. I'd bet that most aren't...
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Old 02-02-2008, 01:16 PM
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Per US News: 89% of Rutgers-New Brunswick undergrads are from in-state; 96% of Rutgers-Camden undergrads from in-state and 92% of Rutgers-Newark undergrads are from NJ.

Princeton: 14% from in-state. Princeton is a private school.
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Old 02-02-2008, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Scarsdale, NY
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I think of Maine all the way down to Miami as the East Coast. People say Seattle to San Diego is the West Coast.
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Old 02-02-2008, 04:37 PM
 
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Pittsburgh is a no-man's land. The east won't claim it and neither will the midwest. It is just Pittsburgh. Sort of like Buffalo and Rochester, NY.
Don't forget Syracuse.

In a book I found at a college library.... I studied a map which divided the country into regions. The "East Coast" region cut half between Syracuse and Utica. So Utica was the western most city in the "East Coast" region and Syracuse was eastern most city in the "Foundry Region". The book was published in the 1950s....
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Old 02-02-2008, 05:19 PM
 
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Cough Cough to pittnurse and terripan, Maryland is pretty much the northeast, cough cough
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