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Old 04-30-2007, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Monterey Bay, California -- watching the sea lions, whales and otters! :D
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The west coast naturally has great scenery -- kind of makes up for some of the towns. Maybe that's why it's hard to get names for that area. I hear that Fresno and Stockton are pretty bad, but that is just heresay, as I have never been there.

The westcoast is pretty expensive because it is pretty!

 
Old 04-30-2007, 02:11 PM
 
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The west coast naturally has great scenery -- kind of makes up for some of the towns. Maybe that's why it's hard to get names for that area. I hear that Fresno and Stockton are pretty bad, but that is just heresay, as I have never been there.

The westcoast is pretty expensive because it is pretty!
The central valley of California is BLAH! And the pollution there is terrible.
 
Old 04-30-2007, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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Oh come on now, Philly has some lovely areas...it's a very large city, so it has good and bad. I think Atlanta has some great areas too. I think the only cities I can think of that felt truly ugly to me were Newark, NJ...West Memphis, AK (if that's even a city)...I thought Wichita was unimpressive and unattractive but I only saw one section of it...same with Chicago, I thought it was awful and ugly but I was there briefly and only saw one section.

Plains, I think St. Joseph is adorable and I would live there in a heartbeat...but I do know what you mean, certain sections seemed a bit run down. It's too bad they can't attract 1-2 large corporations to the area, to increase jobs and fill some of the empty storefronts.
 
Old 04-30-2007, 03:41 PM
 
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Stockton IS bad...I know cuz I grew up and work around here. I'm moving to my boyfriend's town once I save up...this is no place to raise a family if you can afford to get out!!
Pollution in the Central Valley is always bad....the Valley is a natural bowl, so everything gets trapped....and the urban sprawl and cookie-cutter homes. Ugh. Ugh. Ugh.
There are pretty towns here, but Stockton is not one of them.
Oh yeah, don't forget the really bad meth problem!!
 
Old 04-30-2007, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Northern California
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Pheonix is an ugly city. Urban sprawl out to the horizon and the place has no charecter - just endless areas of tract homes and strip malls and awful traffic. And then there is the heat in the summer.
 
Old 04-30-2007, 03:54 PM
 
Location: IN
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"Uglier cities"
Rockford, Illinois
Kankakee, Illinois
Benton Harbor, Michigan
Phoenix, Arizona
Orlando, Florida
East Cleveland, Ohio
 
Old 04-30-2007, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Houston, TX
Pecos, TX
Phoenix, AZ
Orlando, FL
 
Old 04-30-2007, 04:57 PM
 
Location: TwilightZone
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How could you say Orlando? What part were you in? Of course I haven't been there for about 10 years but even where I lived was ok. Along Colonial Dr there's the Fashion Square Mall among other things...
 
Old 04-30-2007, 05:58 PM
 
Location: In God
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What are we meaning when we say ugly? Because I'm confused.
 
Old 04-30-2007, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Bay Area, CA
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Default Stockton & Central Valley

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The west coast naturally has great scenery -- kind of makes up for some of the towns. Maybe that's why it's hard to get names for that area. I hear that Fresno and Stockton are pretty bad, but that is just heresay, as I have never been there.
I lived in Stockton for 3 years, and sadly it was the first "ugly city" I thought of... it's not a very attractive town, partly because it's in the Central Valley - which means no mountains or water (things that make the rest of Calif. beautiful). There's also no real downtown, aside from a small plaza-like area where City Hall is, and even that isn't very nice. The campus of UOP (my alma mater) is quite pretty, though, and has actually been used in a few movies... "Dead Poets Society" and "Dead Man on Campus" are the two I know of. Funny they both have dead in the title, LOL.

Another ugly California city that comes to mind is Bakersfield, but I haven't explored it enough to say for sure... also Fresno, Modesto, Barstow (does have pretty desert-land surrounding it, though), and most of the Central Valley. I'm sure it's still prettier than other parts of the US, but for California, these are among the ugliest. No offense to anyone who lives there!
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