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Old 09-01-2009, 04:12 PM
 
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It seems like (on here atleast) that a vast majority of East Coaster (particularly NYC and surrounding areas) think they are more cultured because they live in NYC.

But from viewing most of their posts, it seems like it's the opposite. It seems like most have not actually traveled the US or the world for that matter.

I'm not sure if I'm the only one who gets that perception. But to be truly cultured, you have to actually know about the cities people talk about. Far too common on here people tend to speak about cities they've never been to.. I try and ONLY talk about areas I've traveled. I just notice that if there is any city or location near NYC (NJ, LI, Conn., Philly, etc) that New Yorkers will almost definitely pick that area or strictly speak about it.. it's just a shame that NYC is such a great place, but the people don't really know about outside of the immediate area.

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Old 09-01-2009, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
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When I think of "cultured," I usually think of enjoying a diversity of foods, having a working knowledge of many (4 or more, usually) languages, and being skilled in world history/geography. As a result of this, I would assume that most "cultured" people live in the big city, but I would also assume that some not-so-cultured people would call themselves "cultured" just because they live in the big city.

For that matter, I wouldn't consider any resident of a big city "cultured" if they still think blacks are hanged by the KKK in the south, can't find a state on a map, or can't describe the variety of geographical areas in the country. Don't get me started on the "What country starts with a U" stuff. Those types of people aren't cultured; they don't even know American culture!
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Old 09-01-2009, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Long Island/NYC
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Beats the hell out of me.

I'm lost when they bring in the "culture" thing to win a City vs City debate.
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Old 09-01-2009, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Omaha
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Originally Posted by WeSoHood View Post
It seems like (on here atleast) that a vast majority of East Coaster (particularly NYC and surrounding areas) think they are more cultured because they live in NYC.

But from viewing most of their posts, it seems like it's the opposite. It seems like most have not actually traveled the US or the world for that matter.

I'm not sure if I'm the only one who gets that perception. But to be truly cultured, you have to actually know about the cities people talk about. Far too common on here people tend to speak about cities they've never been to.. I try and ONLY talk about areas I've traveled. I just notice that if there is any city or location near NYC (NJ, LI, Conn., Philly, etc) that New Yorkers will almost definitely pick that area or strictly speak about it.. it's just a shame that NYC is such a great place, but the people don't really know about outside of the immediate area.
Exactly...
Lot's of people feel that being liberal, gay, and living in NYC makes them cultured...not true.

Being cultured is very simple...Knowledge and respect for other cultures...plain and simple.
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Old 09-01-2009, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Cold Frozen North
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I never understood this whole cultured thing either. By most definitions I would be considered uncultured and I'm OK with that.
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Old 09-01-2009, 07:33 PM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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From personal experience I think you need to go live (not just visit) in another country to get it...I'm sure there are other ways but, this would be the knock out punch. Otherwise you are usually not going to take it in fully.
I have lived in different regions of the U.S. and understand what is normal there, and not some place else. Having experienced a multitude, there isn't really that much variance in the U.S. as if you were dropped off in Nepal for example.
I am aware of other cultures customary offerings and tendencies from being in the U.S., I have experienced other countries by visiting there, meeting locals. But I haven't ever been immersed to the effect as when I actually LIVED in another country for a permanent basis going about the same daily life experiences as other people there.
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Old 09-01-2009, 07:41 PM
 
Location: 30-40N 90-100W
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I'm from a little town, but to me "cultured" doesn't necessarily imply diversity, travel, or even tolerance.

To me "Cultured" implies being well-versed in cultural aspects or products, usually "high culture" rather than "pop-culture." So a "cultured" person would be someone who can credibly discuss the theatre, art, architecture, music, and literature. Generally they'd people who go to museums and can speak a foreign language. A "cultured" person can therefore be found most anywhere or have any kind of views, including repellent ones like white supremacy. (Knut Hamsun won a Nobel Prize in Literature and was a Nazi sympathizer. Julius Evola was quite cultured and Fascistic)
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Old 09-01-2009, 07:43 PM
 
Location: southern california
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know how to use a knife and fork
can dance ballroom
wear your pants above the hips
own a tie
like and enjoy some form of classic art form
can read and write
at least speak one language well
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Old 09-01-2009, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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I'm from a little town, but to me "cultured" doesn't necessarily imply diversity, travel, or even tolerance.

To me "Cultured" implies being well-versed in cultural aspects or products, usually "high culture" rather than "pop-culture." So a "cultured" person would be someone who can credibly discuss the theatre, art, architecture, music, and literature. Generally they'd people who go to museums and can speak a foreign language. A "cultured" person can therefore be found most anywhere or have any kind of views, including repellent ones like white supremacy. (Knut Hamsun won a Nobel Prize in Literature and was a Nazi sympathizer. Julius Evola was quite cultured and Fascistic)
I basically agree with this. Being cultured is about attaining knowledge and applying it in a manner such that one is non-provincial. I have meant plenty of people who are well traveled or who have lived in different places that seemed to have not really gained any insight from the experience.
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Old 09-01-2009, 07:56 PM
 
Location: NJ
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realizing that maybe, just maybe, other states and countries can do things better than we can. "xyz" is not the best *just* because it's from "the north", or "the south", or "the USA". being open to new ideas, not trashing some place just because it's different than where you live. traveling is an excellent way to open people's eyes.

unfortunately, "cultured" people by my definition are very few and far between on this board.
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