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Old 09-19-2009, 12:13 AM
 
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Default Houston's next mayor: either openly gay liberal or liberal from Cal Berkeley - is this the trend in all the U.S?

The openly gay woman is leading last poll I saw.

Dallas shifted left time last election, continuing an ongoing trend in that area. More blue collar Houston, while always controlled by dems, has always lagged behind Dallas and Austin in terms of openly progressive changes.

Are other American cities moving this way, or are some becoming more conservative?
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Old 09-19-2009, 12:16 AM
 
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The blue collar largely moved out of the city and to the suburbs a long time ago. This is hardly surprising.

This isn't a two-horse race though.
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Old 09-19-2009, 12:20 AM
 
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An openly gay mayor of a top 5 city would be shocking dude. I think earlier this year Portland became first big city with gay mayor ever.
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Old 09-19-2009, 12:24 AM
 
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An openly gay mayor of a top 5 city would be shocking dude.
Considering she's already City Controller which is second to the mayor (Annise Parker is to Bill White what Joe Biden is to Barack Obama) I just don't see it being so shocking.

Maybe being homosexual just isn't that big a deal anymore.
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Old 09-19-2009, 12:42 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Ehh... probably not going to do much. There is very little change that can come about on a city level, and cities in general are liberal bastions. When an openly gay woman is in the governor's office of Texas, then I'll get concerned that Texas has gone blue.
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Old 09-19-2009, 01:04 AM
 
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I must be missing something. Does "gay" automatically mean "blue" or Democratic?
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Old 09-19-2009, 01:31 AM
 
Location: 30-40N 90-100W
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I'm not sure any city is getting "more conservative." Judging by voting shifts this election maybe the "Florence-Muscle Shoals Metropolitan Area" in Northern Alabama or Fort Smith in Arkansas, but even that seems doubtful.

The following appear to have remained Republican-leaning cities, which rank fairly low on Epodunk's "gay index."

Abilene, Texas
Amarillo, Texas
Billings, Montana
Bismarck, North Dakota
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Lubbock, Texas
Rapid City, South Dakota
Sioux City, Iowa - I read it passed a resolution against SSM before the Iowa court ruling.

However I'm not sure what if any of those would deemed "cities" here. City-Data forums seem to require a metropolitan area over one million before something is deemed "a city." Going by that standard Oklahoma City is probably as conservative as a city gets.

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I must be missing something. Does "gay" automatically mean "blue" or Democratic?
No, but openly gay or lesbian people are about 70-80% Democratic. As a group gays are more Republican than African Americans or Puerto Ricans, if I'm remembering the stats right, but less Republican or conservative than most other groups. Gay conservatives are usually moderate conservatives. (Justin Raimondo is possibly an exception as he's a past Pat Buchanan supporter) Going by the "American Conservative Union" the lifetime "conservative score" for Jim Kolbe is similar to Lugar or Mary Bono Mack and he's listed as the more conservative of the two gay Republicans I recall being in the House. (Foley also came out as in that range though)

In theory an openly gay person could be conservative on almost all issues, even most social issues, but this doesn't happen very often.

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Old 09-19-2009, 08:46 AM
 
Location: The land of sugar... previously Houston and Austin
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- I don't think Houston as a whole would be considered blue collar. The east-side suburbs such as Channelview and Baytown probably are though.
- How has Houston lagged behind? DFW still has some "dry counties!"
- No, none of it would be shocking these days.
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Old 09-19-2009, 09:04 AM
 
Location: 75025 (previously 75254, 90505, 90010, and 60614)
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- I don't think Houston as a whole would be considered blue collar. The east-side suburbs such as Channelview and Baytown probably are though.
- How has Houston lagged behind? DFW still has some "dry counties!"
- No, none of it would be shocking these days.
Only Delta County which is the furthest away. No other dry counties.

http://www.texasalmanac.com/government/WetDry.pdf (broken link)
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Old 09-19-2009, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I must be missing something. Does "gay" automatically mean "blue" or Democratic?
No. Lots of republican gays in Texas.
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