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Old 10-11-2009, 11:19 PM
 
Location: alive in the superunknown
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I never gave it much thought either. But it sure sucks when that happy little squirrel electrocutes itself and knocks power out in your neighborhood, or a tree falls on it.
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Old 10-11-2009, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Rome, Georgia
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Now, I love my hometown of Rome, and it is a beautiful city, but the power lines and traffic lines are awful! Buried lines and traffic poles would probably increase tourism here from Chattanooga and Atlanta. From what I've heard, yes it is more difficult to repair, but the frequency of problems is far lower.
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Old 10-11-2009, 11:33 PM
 
Location: Chicago- Lawrence and Kedzie/Maywood
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Aren't they above ground everywhere?
I never been to a town where they are underground....

And I don't notice them.
They're just part of the city
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Old 10-12-2009, 06:45 AM
 
Location: SWE
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Am i the only one who has never been bothered by such things at all?
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Old 10-12-2009, 09:08 AM
 
Location: City of Pittsburgh
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Mmm, talking of being in a trillion dollar debt in America, I heard a rumor that China is loaning the money and Obama signed on this, is this true?!
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Old 10-12-2009, 09:10 AM
 
Location: City of Pittsburgh
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I have to add that underground utilities are so much better looking but with a depression on the horizon, how could we ever afford that? IF we could, it sure would be nice! I lived in areas with and without them and I have to say its nice not to see them!
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Old 10-12-2009, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Mmm, talking of being in a trillion dollar debt in America, I heard a rumor that China is loaning the money and Obama signed on this, is this true?!

With the exception of a few years during Clinton's presidency, the Federal Government has run annual deficits for most of the past 40 years. The government finances the deficit mainly by selling bonds. The bonds must be paid for in dollars. Who has dollars? The Chinese, because we pay them hundreds of billions of dollars every year for all the crap we import. For the Chinese, it has been a safe investment, although lately they have been getting worried because of our current masssive deficits. All of a sudden, U.S. govt bonds don't look like a gold plated investment anymore. If China stops or substantially reduces it's purchases of U.S. govt debt, we're sunk.
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Old 10-12-2009, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Back to the question of above ground vs. underground utilities, I noticed that the first time I went to Europe. Aesthetically, underground utility cables are much to be preferred. Besides the cost involved, I wonder if the weather has anything to do with the differences. The NorthEast and MidWest get so much colder than Europe in the Winter, would the ground freezing make underground cables less reliable or more prone to damage?
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Old 02-01-2010, 09:35 AM
 
Location: City of Pittsburgh
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I doubt power lines are killing us, that kinda of out there inmo...we need them and have money to put them underground anyhow even if they were dangeorus, they aren't.
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Old 02-01-2010, 10:08 AM
 
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Many newer (post-1980 say, but date varies by place) subdivisions and land developments are built under municipal rules that require underground power, cable, and telephone lines.

I must say I really notice the difference when there are aboveground power lines along roads or not. Mifflinburg, PA is visually much different than similar sized towns in central PA due to the nature trees shading the sidewalks in front. The power lines are in the alleys behind the homes, so the trees aren't repeatedly trimmed by the power crews.

I can often tell when I'm in electric cooperative vs. private utility territory in rural PA. The electric coops typically operate with blanket easements where power lines were run cross country if shorter to get from place to place. The private companies typically were restricted to public road rights-of-way. Roadside trees look a lot different with 60 years of trimming vs. when they're not.

I met a Utah native who visited PA and said "Your mountains would look nice except for the high voltage power lines scarring the mountainsides, we don't do that here." That got me to looking for the rest of our trip to Utah and indeed the high voltage power lines do run straight up and down the mountains depending on where they want to go. The difference is the rate of vegetation growth, no need to trim scrub that would never grow up to meet the power lines.

As a ubiquitous part of our society I think power lines just are visually tuned out by many folks. Hence some of the visual distinctions they collaterally cause seem to be more felt than described.
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