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Old 10-08-2009, 06:36 PM
 
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Which Western U.S. cities (Denver, Colorado and west) are semi-affordable, walkable, and have decent public transportation for individuals who don't drive?
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Old 10-08-2009, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Mission Viejo, CA
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Define affordable.
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Old 10-08-2009, 06:42 PM
 
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Define affordable.
A place where a person can survive comfortably on a salary from $25k to $50K a year.
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Old 10-08-2009, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Mission Viejo, CA
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You won't be able to buy or live an amazing lifestyle in San Diego, Greater Los Angeles, or the San Francisco Bay Area on that salary. Maybe try Portland, Denver, or Seattle. The rest of the cities like Phoenix, Santa Fe, Las Vegas, Spokane, Fresno, Bakersfield, etc... don't have good public transportation.
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Old 10-08-2009, 11:42 PM
 
Location: Spain
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Do not try to live in Seattle on a $25k income.

I think Portland is your best bet (better public transportation than Denver), but the job market here sucks.
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Old 10-09-2009, 12:48 AM
 
Location: Arvada, CO
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Spokane seems to have a decent bus system that is very popular.

I will say Denver too, but we won't be able to experience its full potential until I'm well into my mid to late 30's (I'm 25 now).
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Old 10-09-2009, 06:21 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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You won't be able to buy or live an amazing lifestyle in San Diego, Greater Los Angeles, or the San Francisco Bay Area on that salary. Maybe try Portland, Denver, or Seattle. The rest of the cities like Phoenix, Santa Fe, Las Vegas, Spokane, Fresno, Bakersfield, etc... don't have good public transportation.
Last year Phoenix opened an initial 20-mile light-rail line with future expansions between 2010-2020. In addition, ADOT is studying commuter rail as a complement to light rail. Is that what you mean by no good public transportation?
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Old 10-09-2009, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Durham, NC
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Portland for the best public transportation, but it comes at the highest cost.
Denver for a nice balacne of public transport and moderate cost.
Phoenix if you don't mind spending a little more than Denver and don't mind less density but want a hot climate.
Not sure about cost of SLC any more, but I do know they beefed up their infrastructure for the Winter Olympics and thus have pretty good public transit now.
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Old 10-09-2009, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Mission Viejo, CA
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Last year Phoenix opened an initial 20-mile light-rail line with future expansions between 2010-2020. In addition, ADOT is studying commuter rail as a complement to light rail. Is that what you mean by no good public transportation?
I'm not saying its horrible and the light rail line is a HUGE step in the right direction and the ridership has been impressive. Certainly things will be different in 10-20 years. How easy is it to live a car free lifestyle in the city though and how many people do NOW?

If I had to get from Glendale/19th Ave and get to the mall at Thomas/75th St, how would I do so via Phoenix Metro and how long would it take???
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Old 10-09-2009, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I'm not saying its horrible and the light rail line is a HUGE step in the right direction and the ridership has been impressive. Certainly things will be different in 10-20 years. How easy is it to live a car free lifestyle in the city though and how many people do NOW?

If I had to get from Glendale/19th Ave and get to the mall at Thomas/75th St, how would I do so via Phoenix Metro and how long would it take???
I cannot tell by the tone of your post whether you are trying to prove something to me, or asking me because you really don't know.

For being one of the newest light-rail lines in the country (opened December 2008), the average weekday ridership did rank 15th in the country, but has grown to 40,772 which may rank it now at 12th. Some other cities may have a higher ridership, but their lines have been around for a lot longer, and the other part of the equation is educating people about alternate modes of transportation. Having said that, bus ridership averages about 146,800 (20th), just edging out Dallas.
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