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Old 03-16-2015, 07:35 PM
 
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Red light cameras in New Mexico fine you just the same without any front plates. Albuquerque eventually did away with their red light cameras.
New Jersey is getting rid of them too. They're more dangerous than not, they've caused more accidents than there used to be here.

Front plates are absolutely better for security, not just for civilians but cops. It's easier to identity a car when it has two plates. Like I said, when I see a car pass me on the other side of the road with no front plate, I get curious to see what state the person's from. Oftentimes when I try to check the back plate in my rear view mirror, I either can't see the back plate because it's too far/too small or another car is now blocking it. It definitely helps to have front license plates.
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Old 03-17-2015, 10:37 AM
 
Location: The Springs
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New Jersey is getting rid of them too. They're more dangerous than not, they've caused more accidents than there used to be here.

Front plates are absolutely better for security, not just for civilians but cops. It's easier to identity a car when it has two plates. Like I said, when I see a car pass me on the other side of the road with no front plate, I get curious to see what state the person's from. Oftentimes when I try to check the back plate in my rear view mirror, I either can't see the back plate because it's too far/too small or another car is now blocking it. It definitely helps to have front license plates.
In CO Springs we had red light cameras for less than 6 months. The police stated they did nothing to improve safety and cost more to maintain and produce fines than they were worth. That could be bull, the real reason is that this town is too Libertarian to tolerate them. The city had to find an excuse to justify removal. Denver still has them.
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Old 03-17-2015, 12:18 PM
 
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New Jersey is getting rid of them too. They're more dangerous than not, they've caused more accidents than there used to be here.

Front plates are absolutely better for security, not just for civilians but cops. It's easier to identity a car when it has two plates. Like I said, when I see a car pass me on the other side of the road with no front plate, I get curious to see what state the person's from. Oftentimes when I try to check the back plate in my rear view mirror, I either can't see the back plate because it's too far/too small or another car is now blocking it. It definitely helps to have front license plates.
Yes, should be fairly common sense that it's better for identifying. I'm surprised some people are so against the front plates or act like it's some civil rights infringement. It's a tag identifying your car.

63% of US states with over 2/3 of the population require a front plate. It's more a question of why don't some than why do others.

The states that don't require one are mostly all grouped together in the southeast, and then New Mexico, Arizona, Michigan, Indiana, Kansas, Oklahoma, West Virginia, Pennsylvania and Delaware.
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Old 03-17-2015, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Miami Beach, FL/Tokyo, Japan
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The states that don't require one are mostly all grouped together in the southeast, and then New Mexico, Arizona, Michigan, Indiana, Kansas, Oklahoma, West Virginia, Pennsylvania and Delaware.
What has increased identification every helped me? It only has cost me, so why should I support something that takes money out of my wallet
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Old 03-17-2015, 12:29 PM
 
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Yes, should be fairly common sense that it's better for identifying. I'm surprised some people are so against the front plates or act like it's some civil rights infringement. It's a tag identifying your car.

63% of US states with over 2/3 of the population require a front plate. It's more a question of why don't some than why do others.

The states that don't require one are mostly all grouped together in the southeast, and then New Mexico, Arizona, Michigan, Indiana, Kansas, Oklahoma, West Virginia, Pennsylvania and Delaware.
I'm surprised too. Again especially considering those states are not only the minority in the country but the world. Most countries require front plates as well, it's common sense like you said.

I always know who a Pennsylvanian is when I see them driving in this area because they never have front plates. 95% of the time it's a Pennsylvanian and not a different out of stater. So I guess depending on the situation it does make identification easy

Then again they identity themselves regardless of license plates by going 50 in the left lane and refusing to move...
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Old 03-17-2015, 12:29 PM
 
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What has increased identification every helped me? It only has cost me, so why should I support something that takes money out of my wallet
I've lived in areas that have had front plates and found a really awesome way of it not costing me money. I don't do illegal things and get pulled over. You make it sound like life is a game of trying to get away with things. Kinda sucks for the rest of society.

Anyway......I highly doubt the difference in front and rear plates is going to make it or break it as far as paying fines or getting pulled over.

No reason not to have the tag on both ends if it can come in handy at some point in being able to identify a car that needs to be found.
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Old 03-17-2015, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Miami Beach, FL/Tokyo, Japan
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No reason not to have the tag on both ends if it can come in handy at some point in being able to identify a car that needs to be found.
If it comes to decision in the voting booth, I will veto it every single time.
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Old 03-17-2015, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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What has increased identification every helped me? It only has cost me, so why should I support something that takes money out of my wallet
Anytime a criminal is apprehended, every law-abiding member of society is helped. And since having two means of identification on a vehicle should (at least in theory) make that vehicle easier to identify than if it had only one, it should stand to reason that making vehicles that are being used by criminals easier to identify should result in a greater number of apprehensions. (I would love to see data from the one-plate and two-plate states to confirm or refute this hypothesis.) Assuming that this holds true, then two license plates per vehicle are better than one.

In any case, it does not necessarily follow that two plates are more expensive to Joe Citizen than one. Only a tiny portion of your registration fees cover the actual cost of manufacturing and distributing the license plates themselves, so going from two plates to one would drop your fees by only a couple of dollars at most. Another portion goes to administrative costs, and the rest goes to fatten the state's coffers.
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Old 03-17-2015, 12:48 PM
 
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Assuming that this holds true, then two license plates per vehicle are better than one.
Why stop at 2? Going by this logic we might as well add license plates on the sides, you know to identify people even easier
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Old 03-17-2015, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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Why stop at 2? Going by this logic we might as well add license plates on the sides, you know to identify people even easier
I assume you're being facetious, but you are absolutely correct. As to why we don't . . . trade-offs, I suppose.
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