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Old 05-07-2007, 08:15 PM
 
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Wow, Speedy, jbear and and Rawlings. Have you been to these cities or are you relying on sterotypes and heresay?
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Old 05-07-2007, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Polish Hill, Pittsburgh, PA
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Have you even been there?

I have been there several times, and the city has never failed to impress me. I love the people, the interesting network of historic neighborhoods, and, most importantly, the wonderful skyline views from atop Mt. Washington, especially at night! After studying that map though, I'd be concerned about living in that city if I had asthma or was in a group sensitive to respiratory ailments.
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Old 05-07-2007, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Phoenix metro
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I have been to Pittsburgh in my travels. It really is much "Nicer" than a lot of folks would believe. BUT PHILLY????? OMG That one I won't buy!!!
Philly isnt that bad. Sure there are bad spots, but I can go any direction from the strip in Vegas and be in a 3rd world craphole too. Have you been to Philly? Its VERY nice in places, and has more class in one block than Vegas has in its entire limits.
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Old 05-07-2007, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Phoenix metro
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I disagree with that list. Pittsburgh as the most livable city, please don't hold your breath! I'd vote Pittsburgh as one of the LEAST livable cities with all that crime and pollution. Otherwise I'd say it's pretty good with the possible exception of San Jose.
Did I just hear a Phoenician talk about crime and pollution? One must look no further than that dusty dive called Phoenix before they bash another city. Pittsburgh is far more cultural than PHX, has a far better downtown, far better sports venues, far better food, and 4 seasons to boot. Pollution? Lets talk about the brown cloud that hovers over PHX almost every day, its disgusting. Crime? PHX always ranks higher than Pittsburgh...

Phoenix. Mmmmmm, yummy:
http://phoenix.about.com/od/weather/a/browncloud.htm
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Old 05-07-2007, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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1. Pittsburgh
4.Portland, Ore.
5.Philadelphia.
6.Rochester, N.Y.
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Wow, Speedy, jbear and and Rawlings. Have you been to these cities or are you relying on sterotypes and heresay?
I've been to each of those cities except Pittsburgh, Phily, Rochester, and Portland. I'd like to visit Portland but as for the rest, I really could care less.

I've had different clients over the years that have moved from Pittsburgh and they have all said it was a horrible place to live. The pollution is bad, a ton of crime in the city itself (not the suburbs), and many buildings are dilapidated. I'm basing it on their views and things that I have heard over the years. As far as I'm concerned, the only good thing about Pittsburgh is the Steelers.
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Old 05-07-2007, 08:55 PM
 
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Wow, Speedy, jbear and and Rawlings. Have you been to these cities or are you relying on sterotypes and heresay?
I have been to all except Rochester. I don't recall posting negetive thought on any of them. I mentioned Denver but not the others.
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Old 05-07-2007, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Pittsburgh is far more cultural than PHX, has a far better downtown, far better sports venues, far better food, and 4 seasons to boot.
More cultural- That's debatable
Better downtown- Yes
Better sports venue- I like the Steelers so I agree.
Better food- NO WAY! Have you ever tried some of the great Mexican food down here? We have some great restaurants in Phoenix.
4 Seasons- Isn't that a negative?
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Old 05-07-2007, 09:07 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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I did forget to mention,I'd like to visit Portland and Seattle.
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Old 05-07-2007, 09:08 PM
 
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I'm gonna be blunt- someone who prefers Pittsburgh over Phoenix in this day and age either (1) grew up in Pittsburgh, (2) lives for football (Steelers over Cardinals any day or (3) strikes me as the extremely dull-type who is scarred of (a) non-white people, (b) a competitive economy (c) upwardly mobile people.

Sorry, certain things are up for debate (Austin or Seattle?), (San Francisco or New York?), (Omaha or Des Moines), but Pittsburgh can't be compared to Phoenix. I would find someone who preferred, say, Hartford to Denver as boring too.
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Old 05-07-2007, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Phoenix metro
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More cultural- That's debatable
Better downtown- Yes
Better sports venue- I like the Steelers so I agree.
Better food- NO WAY! Have you ever tried some of the great Mexican food down here? We have some great restaurants in Phoenix.
4 Seasons- Isn't that a negative?
Thats the problem, the ONLY food PHX does well is Mexican, I will give you that. However, the Italian, Chinese, Irish, etc restaurants that Pittsburgh has are far better and in more quantity from what I saw and have personally tasted compared to PHX.

And how is 4 seasons a negative? To me, constant warmth and never-changing environment is as fun as watching mold grow. Booooooring. Change is good, it keeps things interesting. Subjection to permanency must drive folks mad.
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