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View Poll Results: Should the U.S. require employers to give a minimum certain paid days off/vacation from work for emp
Yes, everybody has the right for paid days off and vacation! 27 58.70%
No, employees should get unpaid days off/vacation 0 0%
No, let each company/employers set their own policy about days off/vacation 19 41.30%
Voters: 46. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-13-2009, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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The United States is the only I-country in the world that do not require to give paid days off/vacation/holidays for employees. And it's also the only I-country that do not require paid days off from work for mothers with newborn babies, and even if it's unpaid - they only have few days off unpaid!
How come this is the only country that is like that!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

List of statutory minimum employment leave by country - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"US law does not require employers to grant any vacation or holidays, and about 25% of all employees receive no vacation time or holidays: No-Vacation Nation. For employees that do receive vacation, 10 working days with 8 national holidays is fairly standard. Members of the US Armed Services earn a total of 30 vacation days."

Even though most company gives their employees a week or two days off/vacation - it's still extremely low + it's not even required. Most employees don't even get paid for it.

Legally required minimum leave in some countries + paid public holidays totally:
*Austria 38 days
* Sweden 36 days
* Denmark 35 days
* Finland 44 days
* France 40 days
* Canada 20 days (avg.)
* Australia 31 days
* Japan 35 days
* UK 28 days
* USA 25 days* (These numbers reflect typical practice among large U.S. firms. There is no federal law requiring employers to give a minimum number of vacation days and holidays off, paid or unpaid)

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Old 10-13-2009, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Town of Herndon/DC Metro
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The United States is the only country in the world that do not require to give paid days off/vacation/holidays for employees. And it's also the only country that do not require paid days off from work for mothers that had new babies, and even if it's unpaid - they only have few days off unpaid!
Moderator cut: profane acronym - How come this is the only country that is like that!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!


"US law does not require employers to grant any vacation or holidays, and about 25% of all employees receive no vacation time or holidays: No-Vacation Nation. For employees that do receive vacation, 10 working days with 8 national holidays is fairly standard. Members of the US Armed Services earn a total of 30 vacation days."
So if I lived in Vietnam shrimp farming, or Bolivia sustenance farming, or growing poppies in Pakistan, I'd get a paid day off? Sounds great! Too bad I would be dirt poor and have no healthcare As a female-forced work/marriage at a very young age (no education either) Oh and a very low life expectancy
Are you willing to live in those places? There are 195 official countries in the world. How many have the paid days off you speak of?
And yes, the USA is very rich (not as much as Russia is right now, or Switzerland but I digress). The US gives TONS of money to charities and assistance to countries worldwide. Do you think the Scandinavian countries or Europe in general do as much?
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Old 10-13-2009, 11:05 AM
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Didn't like the answer to your earlier thread, OP?

Why do Americans work so much?!
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Old 10-13-2009, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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So if I lived in Vietnam shrimp farming, or Bolivia sustenance farming, or growing poppies in Pakistan, I'd get a paid day off? Sounds great! Too bad I would be dirt poor and have no healthcare As a female-forced work/marriage at a very young age (no education either) Oh and a very low life expectancy
Are you willing to live in those places? There are 195 official countries in the world. How many have the paid days off you speak of?
And yes, the USA is very rich (not as much as Russia is right now, or Switzerland but I digress). The US gives TONS of money to charities and assistance to countries worldwide. Do you think the Scandinavian countries or Europe in general do as much?
I think the OP is referring to 1st world countries.
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Old 10-13-2009, 11:40 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Didn't like the answer to your earlier thread, OP?

Why do Americans work so much?!
That was my first thoughts as well. Starting to show their true colors. Just a matter of time before we are all stupid, fat, lazy Americans; which has been said before. I just wish those who don't like it here would just go back to their home Country instead of griping and crying about how the US is different. No kidding, we like it that way. Go back and make a living where ever you came from.
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Old 10-13-2009, 07:57 PM
 
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That was my first thoughts as well. Starting to show their true colors. Just a matter of time before we are all stupid, fat, lazy Americans; which has been said before. I just wish those who don't like it here would just go back to their home Country instead of griping and crying about how the US is different. No kidding, we like it that way. Go back and make a living where ever you came from.
But that would be too easy. Instead, they are in the process of transforming the USA into a socialist nation.

Snowe to vote 'yes' for Finance Committee healthcare reform bill - TheHill.com

In this particular edition the government will MANDATE that every working American pay for health insurance or be fined $750 for an individual or $1500 per couple. Essentially it will be a fee imposed upon people that do not buy health insurance. Worse still, if we wind up with a Public Option plan it may FORCE people against their will to take medical treatment when they don't need it or want it.

I would not put it past this new Administration to try to mandate some kind of employer paid vacation time for employees in this country.
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Old 10-13-2009, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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Basically you're all ignoring the question here because you're too blinded by patriotism. How dare someone question The United States! If they don't like it, they can get the hell out. It would have been nice if MLK Jr. followed that advice...

In answer to OP's question. I think it is absolutely ridiculous that America does not have mandatory PTO. It should be required for every business to give at least 10 business days of PTO each year. Also, I hope we do adopt more socialist values, such as our health care system. Amazes me that people are still living in the McCarthy-era...
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Old 10-13-2009, 08:16 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Basically you're all ignoring the question here because you're too blinded by patriotism. How dare someone question The United States!

Nope, not blinded by anything except this posters constant whining about how bad it is here and how much better it is in Europe.
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Old 10-13-2009, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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The poster has a valid point in this thread, which obviously nobody can argue without invalidating the post based on the character of the OP... If I recall, avoiding the question on focusing on the character is a fallacy, and one that's typically used by weak-minded individuals.
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Old 10-13-2009, 08:34 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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The poster has a valid point in this thread, which obviously nobody can argue without invalidating the post based on the character of the OP... If I recall, avoiding the question on focusing on the character is a fallacy, and one that's typically used by weak-minded individuals.
Think whatever you want. I really don't care.
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