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Old 10-30-2009, 12:08 PM
 
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Um no. I said Atlanta is the only city in the South that can lay claim same level of progress and change as to what has happened in Austin over the past 20 years.
And I'd like to see you quantify all these grand claims with something other than your opinion, and a bunch of adjectives.

I have no beef with Texas, but I am not buying what you are selling here, that Texas is more "progressive" than the deep south. You have made no effort to demonstrate your position, you just repeat it as if I'm supposed to value your personal opinion.

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Old 10-30-2009, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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And I'd like to see you quantify all these grand claims with something other than your opinion, and a bunch of adjectives.

I have no beef with Texas, but I am not buying what you are selling here, that Texas is more "progressive" than the deep south. Given that Texas is the state that put a neocon like George W Bush on the map, and voted McCain in the '08 election, that's a pretty insulting claim.
Wow, only Texas alone voted Bush into the house??? That's a little exaggerated don't you think??

Also Bush is from CT.....

Does NC or GA have the amount of major cities like Austin, Houston, Dallas, and San Antonio all in one state??? Out of the Carolinas; only Charlotte can compete with Austin and SA, but i not match for Houston and Dallas. Dallas and Houston combine shatter Atlanta. You have no case. period.
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Old 10-30-2009, 12:40 PM
 
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Does NC or GA have the amount of major cities like Austin, Houston, Dallas, and San Antonio all in one state??? Out of the Carolinas; only Charlotte can compete with Austin and SA, but i not match for Houston and Dallas. Dallas and Houston combine shatter Atlanta. You have no case. period.


Is that what we're discussing now? Whether NC has a higher urban population than Texas? What's North Carolina got to do with this?


Somewhere along the line, your claim morphed from:

"Texas is more progressive than the deep south"

to

"Texas has grown faster than the deep south"

to

"Texas has a higher population than North Carolina."

Seems like every time I ask one of y'all to quantify your claims, you just change the subject.
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Old 10-30-2009, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Does NC or GA have the amount of major cities like Austin, Houston, Dallas, and San Antonio all in one state??? Out of the Carolinas; only Charlotte can compete with Austin and SA, but i not match for Houston and Dallas. Dallas and Houston combine shatter Atlanta. You have no case. period.
This has now gone BEYOND ridiculous. And totally off topic.

How/when did this turn into yet another competition?
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Old 10-30-2009, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Houston
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And I'd like to see you quantify all these grand claims with something other than your opinion, and a bunch of adjectives.

I have no beef with Texas, but I am not buying what you are selling here, that Texas is more "progressive" than the deep south. Given that Texas is the state that put a neocon like George W Bush on the map, and voted McCain in the '08 election, that's a pretty insulting claim.
Here's the population changes in Texas from 1960-2000. It went from 10 million to 20 million in 40 years.

CensusScope -- Population Growth

4 metros in Texas made the top ten list numerical gains in population in the country for 2006 as apposed to North Carolina which had one at #6 (DFW was #1 and Houston was #4):

US Census Press Releases (http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/population/011671.html - broken link)

in 2009, Houston was #2 in numerical population growth and DFW was #1

Houston population growth 2nd in U.S. behind DFW | Houston & Texas News | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle

If your arguing growth, North Carolina is not growing in population faster than Texas. Texas has been adding something around half a million people each year for the past decade.

In culture for Austin, here a few things in Austin that are pretty big deal.

If your not familiar with South by Southwest, it's a three week festival that involves music, film, and interactive. It started in 1987, and is now an international event in which 1,800 bands come form all over the world to play in Austin, and that is JUST the music portion. Here is some info:

South by Southwest - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

SXSW.com

In addition, Austin also has Austin City Limits, Austin Film Fest, and C3 (who book bands for ACL Music Festival, Lollapalooza, as well as many different venues all over the country). Austin also has one of the most renowned film and music scenes in the country.

Here's a list of movies shot in Austin. It's pretty impressive:

Movies Shot In Austin, Texas list


Houston's economy was well over 50% based on energy in the 1970's, but here's is a pie chart of the city's economy today:

File:Houstonecon.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Dallas has a similar story as well as the entire state. I'm not make this stuff up. I can provide facts to support any of the claims I made about Texas and its cities if you don't believe me. I've lived here for a very long time. I know how the state has progressed over the years.
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Old 10-30-2009, 01:06 PM
 
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This has now gone BEYOND ridiculous. And totally off topic.

How/when did this turn into yet another competition?
Right around post #2 >

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Texans are more prideful, progressive, and the state as a whole is more diverse and international than anywhere else in the south. In other words; we're more exposed to different cultures and ethnic groups.

I've been trying to get them to make a fair comparison between Texas and the deep south states.

They keep wanting to talk about how North Carolina isn't as big as Texas. Because, you know, if Texas has more people than North Carolina, then obviously Texas must be more progressive than all of the south.
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Old 10-30-2009, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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This has now gone BEYOND ridiculous. And totally off topic.

How/when did this turn into yet another competition?
It shows Texas is a much stronger state than any other state in the south. It's considered more progressive because of its booming cities and economy. Amazing diversity and a top city for attracting all types of ethnic groups.

This is on topic; he wanted to know why Texas was more progressive and I told him why.
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Old 10-30-2009, 01:07 PM
 
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Right around post #2 >
Actually the only person to disagree with my first post in this thread was you. It's quite laughable that you say Texas is as progressive as the deep south. You feel the need to throw out insults because you don't agree with what me and wp are saying. It's OK to be a loser ,but not OK to be a sore loser.
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Old 10-30-2009, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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^WOW. Just, wow.

I'm glad I didn't see that post.

I've got Texas' back most of the time around here, but I am frankly insulted by that post - and I like jluke. That statement is just SO wrong, in so many ways.
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Old 10-30-2009, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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It shows Texas is a much stronger state than any other state in the south. It's considered more progressive because of its booming cities and economy. Amazing diversity and a top city for attracting all types of ethnic groups.

This is on topic; he wanted to know why Texas was more progressive and I told him why.
I hate to say this, but your whole tone on this subject is starting to come across as just a little too arrogant and superior.

It's not only NOT true, but it is insulting. What you don't know about the rest of the South is A LOT.
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