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Old 10-27-2009, 12:11 PM
 
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…and I would just add to the above by saying… that snow/cold/freeze in NYC is really fleeting when you look at the hard numbers. Yes it’s colder than subtropical Atlanta or LA …but there are far worse cities to spend a winter in the USA like Chicago, Boston, Minneapolis, Cleveland…etc. NYC gets less than 25-inches of snow on average each winter (some years more, some years more)…about "half" as much as cities like Chicago, Boston, Minneapolis, Cleveland, or Denver. NYC also has fewer days below 32 F than any of the above cities.

The same thing goes for the cloudiness in NYC in winter. People will always tell you that it is so much sunnier in a place like Phoenix or LA (the desert/dry climate) or in Miami (the tropics)…but look what they are comparing it to (lol). The reality is - NYC is far less cloudy than vast areas of the USA in winter. Below is a map of hours of average sunshine in December, the cloudiest month of the year in the USA (look for Long Island in yellow near CT/NJ)…as you can see most of the big cities in the Northeast south of Boston get “MORE” sun in winter than areas of the upper south, northern California, and the Midwest,….and “Far more” than the gloomy Pacific Northwest and Great Lakes. NYC averages 144 hours of sunshine in December, although becasue of the tall buildings you might have to go outside the city to really see it (lol).

Until I studied climate….. I never knew how much hype surrounds NYC in winter. I think they tend to hype the weather in NYC because; well it’s NYC (lol).

Right you are.

Also, in terms of warmth, there's this "little" thing known as the Gulf Stream ... amazing what a warm ocean will do for you.

 
Old 10-27-2009, 02:54 PM
 
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…and I would just add to the above by saying… that snow/cold/freeze in NYC is really fleeting when you look at the hard numbers. Yes it’s colder than subtropical Atlanta or LA …but there are far worse cities to spend a winter in the USA like Chicago, Boston, Minneapolis, Cleveland…etc. NYC gets less than 25-inches of snow on average each winter (some years more, some years more)…about "half" as much as cities like Chicago, Boston, Minneapolis, Cleveland, or Denver. NYC also has fewer days below 32 F than any of the above cities.

The same thing goes for the cloudiness in NYC in winter. People will always tell you that it is so much sunnier in a place like Phoenix or LA (the desert/dry climate) or in Miami (the tropics)…but look what they are comparing it to (lol). The reality is - NYC is far less cloudy than vast areas of the USA in winter. Below is a map of hours of average sunshine in December, the cloudiest month of the year in the USA (look for Long Island in yellow near CT/NJ)…as you can see most of the big cities in the Northeast south of Boston get “MORE” sun in winter than areas of the upper south, northern California, and the Midwest,….and “Far more” than the gloomy Pacific Northwest and Great Lakes. NYC averages 144 hours of sunshine in December, although becasue of the tall buildings you might have to go outside the city to really see it (lol).

Until I studied climate….. I never knew how much hype surrounds NYC in winter. I think they tend to hype the weather in NYC because; well it’s NYC (lol).

nice map... I spent about 2 weeks for Holidays in Cleveland one year... I thought it was utterly depressing, everything was dead and I think I only saw the sun one time.
 
Old 10-27-2009, 02:58 PM
 
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Spring & Fall make winter worth it.

Oh and there was a website posted before comparing cities climates.

New York City IS NOT better in terms of weather than say Columbus, OH or Cincinnati. It's actually pretty darn close to the same as Cleveland. I don't know why people think NYC has so much better weather then cities in the midwest, when it really doesn't.
 
Old 10-27-2009, 03:01 PM
 
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nice map... I spent about 2 weeks for Holidays in Cleveland one year... I thought it was utterly depressing, everything was dead and I think I only saw the sun one time.
Cleveland's certainly not depressing. I'm not sure when you were visiting or WHO you were visiting, but it sounds like you have bad guests. There is so much to do and see that the only way it's depressing is if you are with depressed people.
Cleveland rocks - The Sun Chronicle Online - Features
http://travel.nytimes.com/2009/09/20...l/20hours.html

Those write ups give you some fun things to do in the city. Also, were you in the city? Or some suburbs 30 miles away... that's a huge difference.
 
Old 10-27-2009, 03:06 PM
 
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Cleveland's certainly not depressing. I'm not sure when you were visiting or WHO you were visiting, but it sounds like you have bad guests. There is so much to do and see that the only way it's depressing is if you are with depressed people.
Cleveland rocks - The Sun Chronicle Online - Features
36 Hours - Cleveland - NYTimes.com

Those write ups give you some fun things to do in the city. Also, were you in the city? Or some suburbs 30 miles away... that's a huge difference.
Not the city itself, just the weather, esp considering I was flying in from Florida . I was there dec 2001. Was in the ne suburbs. I did get to see the George Harrison memorial at R&R hall of fame, so, that was cool.
 
Old 10-27-2009, 03:10 PM
 
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For me, it would be totally worth it. My main complaints about snow and ice are mostly related to driving in the stuff, ie, running out in the freezing cold morning to warm up the car, scraping the ice off the windshield, constantly worrying about losing traction. Obviously, none of that would be an issue in NYC and I would be able to just enjoy the beauty of snow, rather than worrying about the hazards of it.
You do realize that you would still have to be outside in the "freezing cold morning" to go to work right? Waiting for the bus in the morning can get to you if you do not like the cold.

Edit: I will add that the main reason I left NY was because of the cold.
 
Old 10-27-2009, 03:12 PM
 
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Not the city itself, just the weather, esp considering I was flying in from Florida . I was there dec 2001. Was in the ne suburbs. I did get to see the George Harrison memorial at R&R hall of fame, so, that was cool.
Ahh yeah.. There are a couple of weeks where some people can't do much. Most of those areas are on the east side in the snow belt.

Funny, I'm flying out to Florida for the rest of winter this year
 
Old 10-27-2009, 03:16 PM
 
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You do realize that you would still have to be outside in the "freezing cold morning" to go to work right? Waiting for the bus in the morning can get to you if you do not like the cold.
Getting entirely ready for work and then throwing on a heavy coat is a lot easier than running out to warm up the car and scrape the ice off, still half asleep having just woken up, at least it is for me. It’s true that I don’t care for the cold, but it’s really driving in snow/ice that turned me off to winter. As I said before, that wouldn’t be a problem in a place like NYC and when I’m in New York, I never really notice the cold anyway. Something about the place just takes your mind off the weather. And if at all possible, I’d position myself so that I’d be taking the subway to work, not waiting at a bus stop.
 
Old 10-27-2009, 03:21 PM
 
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OP if you are somebody who doesn't like the winter, esp if you grew up where you didn't have one, or have SAD...then I don't think it would be worth it. Lots of NY'ers with money are in miami in the winter anyway.
 
Old 10-27-2009, 03:38 PM
 
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New York City winters are pretty mild; there's absolutely no reason why anyone should reconsider a move to NYC based upon the weather.
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