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Old 08-31-2007, 09:59 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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NC is not the Deep South.

But it have my vote for "Upper South" towns. As well as Charlottesville, Virginia,
and Knoxville, TN.
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Old 09-01-2007, 12:06 AM
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We've had so many commercials for masn in the Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill area its been unbelievable. Masn is the Mid Atlantic Sports Network. We are designated as a Nationals/Baltimore Market instead of an Atlanta Market. Apparantly Masn also wants to show Carolina Hurricanes (Raleigh) games. From a market perspective our area is grouped in with virginia as an 'upper south' or a 'southern atlantic state'.
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Old 09-01-2007, 12:17 AM
 
Location: Richmond
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We've had so many commercials for masn in the Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill area its been unbelievable. Masn is the Mid Atlantic Sports Network. We are designated as a Nationals/Baltimore Market instead of an Atlanta Market. Apparantly Masn also wants to show Carolina Hurricanes (Raleigh) games. From a market perspective our area is grouped in with virginia as an 'upper south' or a 'southern atlantic state'.
If things keep going the way they are, NC will be dubbed Mid-Atlantic just as 'ol Virginny has got that misnomer.

There is nothing Mid-Atlantic aboot us. Our weather alone is like the Carolinas. But I've heard South Carolina called "Mid-Atlantic" before.

Brace ourselves. The north is moving South.
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Old 09-01-2007, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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If things keep going the way they are, NC will be dubbed Mid-Atlantic just as 'ol Virginny has got that misnomer.

There is nothing Mid-Atlantic aboot us. Our weather alone is like the Carolinas. But I've heard South Carolina called "Mid-Atlantic" before.

Brace ourselves. The north is moving South.
I do not believe the term Mid-Atlantic means you are north at all. It means you in an area that is basically a transition area and which Virginia and Maryland is.
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Old 09-01-2007, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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I do not believe the term Mid-Atlantic means you are north at all. It means you in an area that is basically a transition area and which Virginia and Maryland is.
NOVA might be, Richmond is IN the South.
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Old 09-01-2007, 09:22 PM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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NOVA might be, Richmond is IN the South.
Yes, Richmond is definitely in the South. I would still argue for the majority of Virginia leaning more towards the South though, and the majority of Maryland leaning more towards the Northeast, but that's just my opinion. Having been on all of Interstate 81 through Virginia, I really felt like I was beginning to enter the Northeast once I crossed into West Virginia and then Virginia. Northern Virginia did not really feel Southern at all when I was there.
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Old 09-01-2007, 10:30 PM
 
Location: IN
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Yes, Richmond is definitely in the South. I would still argue for the majority of Virginia leaning more towards the South though, and the majority of Maryland leaning more towards the Northeast, but that's just my opinion. Having been on all of Interstate 81 through Virginia, I really felt like I was beginning to enter the Northeast once I crossed into West Virginia and then Virginia. Northern Virginia did not really feel Southern at all when I was there.
The funny thing is that Wichita, KS is almost the exact same latitude as Richmond, VA. Both areas would classify as being part of the Bible Belt. However, Wichita is a more backwards overall compared with Richmond for sure. Wichita just voted down a casino that was intended for economic development. They do not vote for their own economic self-interests.
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Old 09-01-2007, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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The funny thing is that Wichita, KS is almost the exact same latitude as Richmond, VA. Both areas would classify as being part of the Bible Belt. However, Wichita is a more backwards overall compared with Richmond for sure. Wichita just voted down a casino that was intended for economic development. They do not vote for their own economic self-interests.
Southern Kansas is parellel to Richmond and I would venture to guess there are cultural similarities. I have friends from near the Oklahoma border and they are similar to me in how they think.
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Old 09-01-2007, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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Yes, Richmond is definitely in the South. I would still argue for the majority of Virginia leaning more towards the South though, and the majority of Maryland leaning more towards the Northeast, but that's just my opinion. Having been on all of Interstate 81 through Virginia, I really felt like I was beginning to enter the Northeast once I crossed into West Virginia and then Virginia. Northern Virginia did not really feel Southern at all when I was there.
Northern Virginia is just a big sub division.

Ive said this a lot, but I can't emphasis enough how different it was as little as 30 or 40 years ago. It was like North Carolina.
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Old 09-02-2007, 09:13 AM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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Southern Kansas is parellel to Richmond and I would venture to guess there are cultural similarities. I have friends from near the Oklahoma border and they are similar to me in how they think.
I actually can't really say that there are ANY similarities between Wichita and Richmond besides them being in the Bible belt...the two are worlds apart from each other in almost every sense of the word except of course when we are talking about The Word or maybe, maybe some forms of politics Same latitude, but almost 2000 miles apart. Have been to both places...while they may both be part of the Bible Belt, that's just about the only commonality I've observed between the two. Wichita is part of the Plains. Richmond is part of the Southeast. The Southern Plains and the Southeast are quite different from one another culturally, by speech patterns, etc. I could probably say with a fair amount of certainty that Richmond is likely far more conservative than a place like Wichita, although given Wichita isn't very far from the Oklahoma border that I may be wrong. I've always found Wichita myself to be a bit less conservative than Richmond from the few times I visited there ...that said, it certainly was not as grand as Richmond. I guess you could be right about the latitude..how does that line from that Jimmy Buffett song go....something like "Changes in latitudes, changes in attitudes, nothing remains quite the same." I would live in Richmond over Wichita without a second thought. My personal opinions on Oklahoma and KAnsas are that they are the most depressing states. Kansas is better in the sense that it at least is not a ugly state. Oklahoma is both ugly and boring...just try driving on Interstate 44 from Joplin, MO to the Texas Panhandle on Interstates 44 and 40. Some of the ugliest land i've ever seen. My dad personally having grown up in both Miami, OK and Joplin says that NE Oklahoma and SW Missouri west of Springfield are the most depressing places to grow up, or were back in the day when he was there, which was over 40 years ago. Joplin I think has had the chance to benefit from the growth of Springfield...the two cities are beginning to overlap each other and there is more there now then was there during my dad's time. That said, Tulsa and Oklahoma City are not such bad places to live. I just think Oklahoma's landscape is among the ugliest in the lower 48. Some corn does grow down there but it has to be harvested VERY early, we're talking like August, and most of it is really just pasteurland and ranchland...miles of just grass. I wish Oklahoma with the money they have would try to improve the scenery around their interstates.

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