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Old 10-29-2009, 06:05 PM
 
Location: 30-40N 90-100W
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I think it's relatively common, or at least less uncommon, with people over 50. Then again I've heard "Negro" among people over 60, black and white, so that might not mean much.

I suppose when possible you might just be better off using the specific nationality rather than "Asian" or "Oriental."
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Old 10-29-2009, 06:46 PM
 
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I think it's relatively common, or at least less uncommon, with people over 50. Then again I've heard "Negro" among people over 60, black and white, so that might not mean much.

I suppose when possible you might just be better off using the specific nationality rather than "Asian" or "Oriental."
I would think that anyone who watches even a little TV or communicates with other people on a daily basis would have to be aware of such major changes in what constitutes appropriate language. People over 50 are not excused from knowing these things - maybe people over 75 are, but 50 is a little young to be in that category.

I think that most non-Asians would not be able to immediately distinguish the nationality of an Asian person without further information from that person. I guess that's the main reason that "Asian" is used as a blanket description for people from Asia...much the same way that "white" or "black" is used as a blanket description for many people from the U.S. and all over the world.
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Old 10-30-2009, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Where ocean meets up with the naked land.
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I knew of a racist who used the term "orientals" in a professional setting. I still think of the word is offensive. I don't think it is the right way to describe a person like that.
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Old 10-30-2009, 09:57 AM
 
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There is also a Orient Point, NY.

It seems that the term has just fallen out of favor. Like gramophone or omnibus.

Undereducated rednecks will still use the word either out of ignorance or spite.
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:07 AM
 
Location: New England & The Maritimes
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I guess that's the main reason that "Asian" is used as a blanket description for people from Asia...much the same way that "white" or "black" is used as a blanket description for many people from the U.S. and all over the world.
which begs the question, if "white" and "black" are okay why no "yellow"? (which i am assuming everyone would agree is racist)
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Old 10-30-2009, 07:19 PM
 
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I think that most non-Asians would not be able to immediately distinguish the nationality of an Asian person without further information from that person. I guess that's the main reason that "Asian" is used as a blanket description for people from Asia...much the same way that "white" or "black" is used as a blanket description for many people from the U.S. and all over the world.
China and India, the two largest Asian countries, have populations that are quite readily distinguishable to most non-Asians.
But you're right, Asian, Black, Latino, and White are blanket descriptions for many people from America and all over the world.

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which begs the question, if "white" and "black" are okay why no "yellow"? (which i am assuming everyone would agree is racist)
I guess because Asians vary from black to white and everything inbetween.
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Old 10-30-2009, 07:43 PM
 
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I guess because Asians vary from black to white and everything inbetween.
As do black and white people...there is a wide range of skin colors within every race, so I've never quite understood why we call people by colors. I'm white, but I've met many a black person with skin just about a shade darker than mine.
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Old 10-30-2009, 08:20 PM
 
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which begs the question, if "white" and "black" are okay why no "yellow"? (which i am assuming everyone would agree is racist)
Asians aren't yellow, but then again whites aren't white. We're really closer to a pinkish color. In fact I believe Ethiopians once called us "the pink people." (Not that pink is entirely right either)

I think calling Asians "Yellow" was specifically connected to certain scaremonger images. "The Yellow Peril" being the most obvious. "Black" I guess was too, but maybe not quite in the same way. Also "yellow" can describe an emotion, namely fear. Granted "Dark" can describe an emotional mood and "darkie" is indeed a racial slur. In fact I have heard my Dad use the n-word, but I'm not sure I've ever heard him say "darkie" and I don't know if I hear blacks calling each other that either.

Addendum: I do recall an episode of the Chappelle Show where Rick James, as portrayed by Chappelle, calls the Murphy brothers "The Darkness brothers." However I think this was seen as a sign the James character was high and being kind of a jerk.
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Old 10-30-2009, 08:22 PM
 
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Asians aren't yellow, but then again whites aren't white. We're really closer to a pinkish color. In fact I believe Ethiopians once called us "the pink people." (Not that pink is entirely right either)

I think calling Asians "Yellow" was specifically connected to certain scaremonger images. "The Yellow Peril" being the most obvious. "Black" I guess was too, but maybe not quite in the same way. Also "yellow" can describe an emotion, namely fear. Granted "Dark" can describe an emotional mood and "darkie" is indeed a racial slur. In fact I have heard my Dad use the n-word, but I'm not sure I've ever heard him say "darkie" and I don't know if I hear blacks calling each other that either.
On the other hand, "white" is usually associated with the good guy or hero, or purity. I wonder how that happened?
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Old 10-30-2009, 08:24 PM
 
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Addendum: I do recall an episode of the Chappelle Show where Rick James, as portrayed by Chappelle, calls the Murphy brothers "The Darkness brothers." However I think this was seen as a sign the James character was high and being kind of a jerk.
"I'm Rick James B*TCH!"
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