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Old 11-18-2009, 03:24 PM
 
Location: metro ATL
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Charlotte-Gastonia-Concord CSA

Charlotte-Gastonia-Concord MSA (NC): 1,701,799
Your overall point still stands, but I just wanted to point out that it's the Charlotte-Gastonia-Salisbury, NC-SC CSA which has a population of 2,338,289. It includes the Charlotte-Gastonia-Concord MSA, which you correctly stated, plus seven micropolitan statistical areas which make up the difference.
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Old 11-18-2009, 03:38 PM
 
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Your overall point still stands, but I just wanted to point out that it's the Charlotte-Gastonia-Salisbury, NC-SC CSA which has a population of 2,338,289. It includes the Charlotte-Gastonia-Concord MSA, which you correctly stated, plus seven micropolitan statistical areas which make up the difference.
Several of his statistics were off...he left out some areas, like Athens, Columbus, Macon, and Winston-Salem - which would add about another million people. Also, the Southeastern Corridor doesn't stretch from Richmond to Montgomery...it's generally considered the area between Raleigh and Atlanta, loosely following I-85.
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Old 11-18-2009, 06:08 PM
 
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The BosWash ideohas been pretty much rejected by everyone except the NY Times company... And even they are starting to figure out how reductionist it is.
Totally passe, and invented by geographers with little understanding of how culture is produced or transitions though generations.
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Old 11-18-2009, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Germantown, MD
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Your overall point still stands, but I just wanted to point out that it's the Charlotte-Gastonia-Salisbury, NC-SC CSA which has a population of 2,338,289. It includes the Charlotte-Gastonia-Concord MSA, which you correctly stated, plus seven micropolitan statistical areas which make up the difference.
I didn't include micropolitan areas in either region since they are exurban, and have very low densities and low populations.

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Several of his statistics were off...he left out some areas, like Athens, Columbus, Macon, and Winston-Salem - which would add about another million people. Also, the Southeastern Corridor doesn't stretch from Richmond to Montgomery...it's generally considered the area between Raleigh and Atlanta, loosely following I-85.
Well I-85 starts near Richmond (in Petersburg), which is the 3rd largest MSA on the corridor so I thought that it would be a suitable anchor city. You're right about the ones I missed, although the Athens area was below 200,000. I also forgot the Reading, PA MSA.

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For this revision, I'm lowering the MSA requirement to ~150,000 since too many important areas were left off, but am still excluding micropolitan areas.

I-95 (DC to Boston):
Baltimore-Washington CSA

Washington DC MSA (DC-MD-VA): 5,286,227
- Bethesda-Gaith.-Fred. MD
- Washington-Arl-Alex. MD
Baltimore-Towson MSA (MD): 2,658,405
Hagerstown-Martinsburg MSA (MD-WV): 261,198

Philadelphia–Camden–Wilmington CSA (Delaware Valley)

Philadelphia–Camden–Wilmington MSA (DE-MD-NJ-PA): 5,838,471
- Camden MD
- Philadelphia MD
- Wilmington MD
Reading, PA MSA (PA): 403,595
Vineland-Millville-Bridgeton MSA (NJ): 156,830

New York-Newark-Bridgeport CSA

New York-Northern New Jersey-Long Island MSA (NY-NJ-PA): 18,815,988
- New York-White Plains-Wayne MD
- Nassau-Suffolk MD
- Edison-New Brunswick MD
- Newark-Union MD
Bridgeport-Stamford-Norwalk MSA (CT): 902,775
New Haven-Milford MSA (CT): 846,766
Poughkeepsie-Newburgh-Middletown MSA (NY): 667,742
Trenton-Ewing MSA (NJ): 366,256
Kingston MSA (NY): 181,670

Boston-Worcester-Manchester CSA (Greater Boston)

Boston-Cambridge-Quincy MSA (MA-NH): 4,411,835
- Boston-Quincy MD
- Cambridge-Newton-Framingham MD
- Essex County MD
- Rockingham County-Strafford County MD
Worcester MSA (MA): 783,262
Providence-New Bedford-Fall River MSA (MA-RI): 1,622,520
Manchester-Nashua MSA (NH): 401,291

Independent MSA's

Norwich-New London MSA (CT): 264,519
Hartford-West Hartford-East Hartford MSA (CT): 1,190,512
Dover MSA* (DE): 155,415
Atlantic City-Hammonton MSA (NJ): 270,681
Springfield MSA* (MA): 687,558


I-85 (Richmond to Montgomery):
Raleigh-Durham CSA

Raleigh-Cary MSA (NC): 1,088,765
Durham MSA MSA (NC): 489,762

Greensboro–Winston-Salem–High Point CSA

Greensboro-High Point, MSA (NC): 705,684
Winston-Salem, MSA (NC): 468,124
Burlington, MSA (NC): 148,053

Charlotte-Gastonia-Concord CSA

Charlotte-Gastonia-Concord MSA (NC): 1,701,799

Greenville-Spartanburg-Anderson CSA

Greenville-Mauldin-Easley MSA (SC): 624,715
Spartanburg MSA (SC): 280,738
Anderson MSA (SC): 182,825

Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Gainesville CSA

Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta, GA MSA: 5,376,285
Gainesville MSA (GA): 184,814

Macon-Warner Robins-Fort Valley CSA

Macon MSA* (GA): 230,777

Columbus-Auburn-Opelika CSA

Columbus MSA (GA): 287,653
Auburn-Opelika MSA (AL): 133,010

Montgomery-Alexander City CSA

Montgomery MSA (AL): 365,924

Indpendent (Primary) CSA's

Richmond-Petersburg MSA* (VA): 1,225,626
Athens-Clarke County MSA (NC): 189,264

*MSA's on the peripherary of the corridors

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I-95:
Total pop.- 46,173,526
distance (Alexandria-Manchester)- 478 mi.
person/mi.- 96,597

I-85:
Total pop.- 13,683,818/11,482,341
distance (Montgomery-Richmond/Atlanta-Raleigh)-692 mi./409 mi.
person/mi.- 19,774/28,074

So, the changes affect the results a little. The I-85 corridor still doesn't hold a candle to the I-95 BosWash though. I must say that I am still impressed by the I-85 Corridor. I didn't realize there were so many cities located along it besides the Triad/Research Triangle, Charlotte, Atlanta etc.
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Old 11-18-2009, 06:50 PM
 
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Okay...28,000 was about what I came up with for the Raleigh-Atlanta corridor. This gives a good idea of the actual cities included in the "emergent megalopolis", and it actually includes Birmingham to Raleigh and has a population of 19 million:

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The I-85 Corridor in the Southeastern United States: the same pair of studies define this areas as an "emergent" megalopolis including the primary cities of Birmingham, Atlanta, Greenville, Spartanburg, Charlotte, Winston-Salem, Greensboro, Durham and Raleigh.Both studies refer to the area as the Piedmont megalopolis; the Georgia Tech survey defines the region narrowly, focusing on the urban, suburban and rural counties between Birmingham and Raleigh. The Virginia Tech study proposes a broader definition, which would also include Columbus, Macon, Huntsville, Augusta, Columbia, Knoxville, Chattanooga, Johnson City, Asheville and a number of smaller cities; the western extent of this definition is somewhat disconnected by the Appalachian Mountains range. Both reports highlight the "emergent" nature of this possible megalopolis, noting comparatively low urban densities, but also noting a pattern in growth (in the individual, component urban areas) towards each other. As of 2005, this region (as defined in the Virginia Tech study) has a population of 19 million
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Old 11-19-2009, 08:02 PM
 
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If you look at nightime images of the east coast, there is a pretty definable string of lights from Norfolk to north of Boston.


Just illustrating your point.

Imo the NE corridor stops in Northern Va and the SE corridor starts in Raleigh.
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Old 11-19-2009, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Sarasota, Florida
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Obviously the name implies everything between Boston and Washington, but I've seen some define it as everything from Norfolk to Maine. What's your thoughts?
File:Boswash.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia But I too would include Richmond...some maps have it extending as far west as Scranton/Wilkes-Barre and Allentown/Bethelem???
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Old 12-02-2009, 07:02 PM
 
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Just illustrating your point.

Imo the NE corridor stops in Northern Va and the SE corridor starts in Raleigh.
So by your definition, where does that leave the Richmond and Norfolk/Hampton Roads metro areas. From the picture above, Richmond to HR and Richmond to DC is less separated than NYC to Boston, thus both of these metros should be included in BosWash
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Old 12-03-2009, 01:02 PM
 
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Nothing. They're both cut off from civilization

But seriously, I can visualize continued growth between DC and Richmond, especially if they could get high speed rail to pan out in the future.
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Old 12-03-2009, 01:16 PM
 
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^ Actually Amtrak includes Richmond, Williamsburg & Newport News in their Northeast Corridor Train Schedule now

Amtrak Routes and Schedules
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