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11-06-2009, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by kcee510
Have you ever been to the Bay Area? I believe if you have you will see that SJ is very much apart of the SF Bay Area metro.
It doesn't make sense because Fremont is included in the SF Oakland metro yet it's border is only 5-10min from SJ.
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It is funny how people from outside the Bay Area try to tell us from the Bay Area what actually is the Bay Area lol.
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11-06-2009, 12:12 PM
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I can honestly say that I don't see much open land at all between the two. Maryland is pretty much fully urban/suburbanized from the DC border all the way to Harford county. As I drive along I-95 North to Baltimore you see suburban development almost continuously along every exit.
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Now, take the Baltimore-Washington parkway. It's anything but developed between the two areas. Very rural and nothing but trees for 30-40 minutes before you start seeing something.
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11-06-2009, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by aceplace
In the case of SF and San Jose, the local people are not willing to travel between them to the extent required, and that splits them into two independent regions.
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lol... 
they aren't are they?
note to self, please memo the sf 49ers and tell them not to move to santa clara...
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11-06-2009, 03:57 PM
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There may be some spots but, the Parkway may seem rural because its surrounded by trees, but thats because it is a designated US Park Service highway. No trucks allowed nor can highrise developments be built directly off it. There are in fact many suburban developments off each of the exits as soon as you bare off the highway. Laurel, Columbia/Ft Meade, Arundel Mills is one of the largest malls in the state with new apartments and townhomes being built around it (and maybe soon casinos), BWI airport and the hotel district surrounding it are all exits along the 20 mile stretch from 495 Beltway to 695 Beltway. Nonetheless in another 10-15 years the development will truly resemble that of one metro area when the BRAC re-alignment adds another 30,000 jobs in AA and Howard county.
I understand the facts about commuting patterns but many people commute from Howard and Anne Arundel county to work in Montgomery, Prince George's or DC. I know more people that live in Columbia who work and go out in the District than they do Baltimore. In fact when their friends from out of town come in, they tell them they live near DC although physically about 10-15 miles closer to Bmore.
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11-06-2009, 04:22 PM
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There may be some spots but, the Parkway may seem rural because its surrounded by trees, but thats because it is a designated US Park Service highway. No trucks allowed nor can highrise developments be built directly off it. There are in fact many suburban developments off each of the exits as soon as you bare off the highway. Laurel, Columbia/Ft Meade, Arundel Mills is one of the largest malls in the state with new apartments and townhomes being built around it (and maybe soon casinos), BWI airport and the hotel district surrounding it are all exits along the 20 mile stretch from 495 Beltway to 695 Beltway. Nonetheless in another 10-15 years the development will truly resemble that of one metro area when the BRAC re-alignment adds another 30,000 jobs in AA and Howard county.
I understand the facts about commuting patterns but many people commute from Howard and Anne Arundel county to work in Montgomery, Prince George's or DC. I know more people that live in Columbia who work and go out in the District than they do Baltimore. In fact when their friends from out of town come in, they tell them they live near DC although physically about 10-15 miles closer to Bmore.
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You probably have to get off the parkway to see development in some areas...not everything is built to hug major thoroughfares.
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11-06-2009, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Spade
Now, take the Baltimore-Washington parkway. It's anything but developed between the two areas. Very rural and nothing but trees for 30-40 minutes before you start seeing something.
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Key word there, parkway. It's "very rural" for a couple hundred yards in either direction, beyond which is all of the suburban mess that is central Maryland.
National Park Service - Baltimore-Washington Parkway
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11-07-2009, 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by gogetta
It is funny how people from outside the Bay Area try to tell us from the Bay Area what actually is the Bay Area lol.
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It does not mateer where someone is from.
It's clear that San Jose is a LONG commute away from San Fran, which is why it's included in the CSA and not the MSA.
This is my opinion and the government see it this way too. I am not the only one. 
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11-07-2009, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by UrbanLover
It does not mateer where someone is from.
It's clear that San Jose is a LONG commute away from San Fran, which is why it's included in the CSA and not the MSA.
This is my opinion and the government see it this way too. I am not the only one. 
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I agree with you 
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11-07-2009, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by kcee510
As a life long Bay Area resident I can assure you it is ONE metro. San Jose might be more important when it comes to the tech industry but have you ever been there? It's one giant suburb. It doesn't even come close to matching SF on a cultural level. San Jose struggles just to get tourists to come stay in the city.
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Ahahaha, tourists make a city now? Is this what puts Las Vegas and Orlando above Boston and Chicago? Jesus christ...
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11-07-2009, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Spade
Now, take the Baltimore-Washington parkway. It's anything but developed between the two areas. Very rural and nothing but trees for 30-40 minutes before you start seeing something.
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Take Route 1 between DC and Baltimore. There is absolutely no break in development between the two metro areas.
The Baltimore-Washington Parkway just happens to go through a more undeveloped area between the two metro areas.
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