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View Poll Results: Are Boston's collges overrated?
Yes, by a long shot 10 16.13%
No, are you crazy?! 42 67.74%
Eh, they're good, but not the best 6 9.68%
I have no opinion 4 6.45%
Voters: 62. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-04-2009, 03:37 PM
 
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Strange question.

 
Old 11-04-2009, 03:47 PM
 
Location: New England & The Maritimes
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I'm sure everyone can guess my answer: of course not. Boston is home to two Top 5 universities in the nation, and two Top 10 universities on the planet (including the #1 for both lists). Also home to the world's best tech school (or at least tied for the top spot with CalTech). Over 250,000 college students reside in Boston and Cambridge alone.

Harvard's annual financial endowment is the second largest of any non-profit organization (behind the Bill & Melinda Gates foundation) with $26 billion. Harvard has graduated 8 presidents, and around 50 Nobel Prize winners have been associated with the University. The list of people who didn't graduate Harvard is nearly equally impressive.

Harvard Medical School is arguably the best in the world, and is located in the center of arguably the greatest concentration of top medical facilities on the planet, Longwood.

MIT has a very notable alumni list too. If you took the combined revenues of companies founded by MIT affiliates, it would be the seventeenth largest economy on the planet. Not too bad.

One of the top Liberal Arts schools in country is Wellesley College, located just outside the city (3 of the top 5 are in Massachusetts, but 2 are in Western Mass).

Other notable schools in the Boston area: Boston College, Boston University, Suffolk University, Emerson College, College of the Holy Cross, Tufts University, Brandeis University, Bentley University, Lasell College, Lesley University, Berklee College of Music, Wentworth Institute of Technology, and Worcester Polytech.

If you include the Boston CSA, then you'd also have Brown, Providence College, and Salve Regina.

I can't think of any city which can stack up to the Athens of America...none are even close.

That is the correct answer. Unfortunately, my rep needs spreading.
 
Old 11-04-2009, 04:20 PM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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Yea probably, but there's certainly no other concentration of top schools like Boston's...which is what I understood to be the OP's question.
I agree, Boston has the highest concentration of highly rated schools and programs.
 
Old 11-04-2009, 10:21 PM
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Define "top" schools for self

I define them by career/financial accomplishments of alums/attendees over past 25 yrs

Even at elite schools like Stanford or Berkeley, top engineering alums dwarf the generally worthless lib arts (and law/med/MBA) alums. Alums from top 1% of class (and a few notable dropouts) make rest seem like deadweight; after all, bottom 75% of class at any school (no matter how elite) tend to be mockably inept rounding error

And MIT is a laughable school for "dumb geeks"....can think of far more notable alums of Stanford, Berkeley, IL or Carnegie Mellon engineering who've created far more wealth via founding major tech cos. (MIT (or Caltech) is notably absent in world of modern tech wealth creation....consider colleges of founders of Google, Youtube, PayPal, Yahoo, etc etc)

Bos region mysteriously lacks almost any valuable tech cos. or major hedge funds despite allegedly two competent colleges....
 
Old 11-05-2009, 03:48 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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Define "top" schools for self

I define them by career/financial accomplishments of alums/attendees over past 25 yrs

Even at elite schools like Stanford or Berkeley, top engineering alums dwarf the generally worthless lib arts (and law/med/MBA) alums. Alums from top 1% of class (and a few notable dropouts) make rest seem like deadweight; after all, bottom 75% of class at any school (no matter how elite) tend to be mockably inept rounding error

And MIT is a laughable school for "dumb geeks"....can think of far more notable alums of Stanford, Berkeley, IL or Carnegie Mellon engineering who've created far more wealth via founding major tech cos. (MIT (or Caltech) is notably absent in world of modern tech wealth creation....consider colleges of founders of Google, Youtube, PayPal, Yahoo, etc etc)

Bos region mysteriously lacks almost any valuable tech cos. or major hedge funds despite allegedly two competent colleges....
The alumni might not have stayed in the area, but that doesn't mean the schools weren't good. It's true that Berkeley and Stanford have spun off a lot more tech companies in recent years, but I don't agree with your rubric for what makes a good school.

Boston isn't overrated simply because of the sheer number of quality schools and programs in addition to the two heavyweights. There are other cities that are way underrated though.
 
Old 11-05-2009, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Define "top" schools for self

I define them by career/financial accomplishments of alums/attendees over past 25 yrs
That's fine. We'll define ours by the career/financial accompishments of alums/attendees over the past 380 years

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Even at elite schools like Stanford or Berkeley, top engineering alums dwarf the generally worthless lib arts (and law/med/MBA) alums. Alums from top 1% of class (and a few notable dropouts) make rest seem like deadweight; after all, bottom 75% of class at any school (no matter how elite) tend to be mockably inept rounding error
Worthless? So because a person doesn't start a company and make billions of dollars, he/she is worthless? 8 US Presidents, including our current one and 4 current Supreme Court Justices are Harvard alum. Of course they are worthless so who cares.
Do you even realize that America was built by people who didn't have any secondary education?

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And MIT is a laughable school for "dumb geeks"....can think of far more notable alums of Stanford, Berkeley, IL or Carnegie Mellon engineering who've created far more wealth via founding major tech cos. (MIT (or Caltech) is notably absent in world of modern tech wealth creation....consider colleges of founders of Google, Youtube, PayPal, Yahoo, etc etc)
LOL! Those "dumb geeks" of MIT have created current businesses that, if they were all put together, would be equal to the words 11th largest economy with world sales of over 2 trillion dollars.
That is one unimpressive school. LOL! Who's the dumb geek now???
MIT Entrepreneurs Produce $2 Trillion - The Equivalent of the 11th Largest Economy in the World | College Mogul
 
Old 11-05-2009, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Oak Park, IL
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Define "top" schools for self

I define them by career/financial accomplishments of alums/attendees over past 25 yrs

Even at elite schools like Stanford or Berkeley, top engineering alums dwarf the generally worthless lib arts (and law/med/MBA) alums. Alums from top 1% of class (and a few notable dropouts) make rest seem like deadweight; after all, bottom 75% of class at any school (no matter how elite) tend to be mockably inept rounding error

And MIT is a laughable school for "dumb geeks"....can think of far more notable alums of Stanford, Berkeley, IL or Carnegie Mellon engineering who've created far more wealth via founding major tech cos. (MIT (or Caltech) is notably absent in world of modern tech wealth creation....consider colleges of founders of Google, Youtube, PayPal, Yahoo, etc etc)

Bos region mysteriously lacks almost any valuable tech cos. or major hedge funds despite allegedly two competent colleges....
There's more to a successful life than accumulation of financial wealth. By your criteria, Einstein and Martin Luther King led pretty worthless lives.
 
Old 11-05-2009, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Boston
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haha, is that an actual quote from a movie?
This is Spinal Tap
 
Old 11-05-2009, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Bos region mysteriously lacks almost any valuable tech cos. or major hedge funds despite allegedly two competent colleges....
Boston Scientific?
Genzyme?

That you may not know of them does not mean the tech companies are not here. But then again, biotech is not well known outside of Boston, which is arguably the premier center for that industry.

As for hedge funds, that is just one arm of finance. Finance in Boston centers mostly around mutual funds and venture capital. Maybe you've heard of Fidelity or Bain Capital?
 
Old 11-05-2009, 10:22 AM
 
Location: New England & The Maritimes
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evidently none of you have seen any of hsw's other posts.

he appears occasionally to discuss hedge funds and why the vast majority of people on earth are useless. ignore him.
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