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Old 11-16-2009, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Cowboys have gotten a bit of a negative association lately...
http://www.preemptivekarma.com/Cowboy_George_W3.jpg (broken link)

I can't be too mad at Texas and the Southwest though...they've given us entertaining Governors in the past...
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Old 11-16-2009, 12:55 PM
 
Location: The land of sugar... previously Houston and Austin
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I think it will be tough for any cities in Texas to get the olympics, simply because to many foreigners Texas represents "evil" America. It's home to cowboys, big cars, highways, and W. Whether or not it's fair or true, it seems to be how outsiders view the state.
Didn't seem to hurt China, which is known for a lot worse... by a longshot.

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That was exactly my point about Houston and you could include Texas for that matter. Even on these boards, it seems like there are a lot of unfair and untrue negative stereotypes from people in the United States. Even though W is not from Texas (he's from Connecticut
I don't think the W association should matter anyway. In the least. This is a whole other topic, but I wouldn't be surprised if in hindsight, people realize he wasn't nearly as bad as he was made out to be by the biased media and other sources. Just my opinion.
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Old 11-16-2009, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Cowboys have gotten a bit of a negative association lately...


I can't be too mad at Texas and the Southwest though...they've given us entertaining Governors in the past...
Maybe we should have hired Mel Brooks as our PR rep when we had the chance. lol!
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Old 11-16-2009, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Didn't seem to hurt China, which is known for a lot worse... by a longshot.



I don't think the W association should matter anyway. In the least. This is a whole other topic, but I wouldn't be surprised if in hindsight, people realize he wasn't nearly as bad as he was made out to be by the biased media and other sources. Just my opinion.
I somewhat agree. Although I don't think he will ever be viewed as a good president, I do think that as time goes on while different people are running our government, Bush's relevance will began to fade along with Texas' "association" with the former president in most peoples minds.

Although, I agree. this is off topic.
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Old 11-16-2009, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Didn't seem to hurt China, which is known for a lot worse... by a longshot.
I agree China's worse when it comes to pollution, etc, but remember China had never hosted the Olympics, so that helped their cause. They're also an up-and-coming country, blah, blah, blah--you know the story.

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I don't think the W association should matter anyway. In the least. This is a whole other topic, but I wouldn't be surprised if in hindsight, people realize he wasn't nearly as bad as he was made out to be by the biased media and other sources. Just my opinion.
He was definitely really bad. However, some groups have gone as far as to say he belongs in the same company as Hitler, Stalin, and Hussein (very, very ignorant on their part because he doesn't belong anywhere near those people). I'm not saying W was as bad as the media portrays him to be, but the outside view of him portrays him to be a horrible person, and he's a Texan (in their eyes). That's why I think it could have a negative effect on any Texas cities' chances, whether it's fair or not.

I think that international views of a city could actually help a place like Boston, which is supposedly looked at in a very positive light from an international standpoint.
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Old 11-16-2009, 02:43 PM
 
Location: The land of sugar... previously Houston and Austin
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I agree China's worse when it comes to pollution, etc,
Uh, pollution is barely the tip of the iceburg.

Try severe human rights abuses, insane animal cruelty, pirating & very questionable business practices, communism, etc.

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He was definitely really bad. However, some groups have gone as far as to say he belongs in the same company as Hitler, Stalin, and Hussein (very, very ignorant on their part because he doesn't belong anywhere near those people). I'm not saying W was as bad as the media portrays him to be, but the outside view of him portrays him to be a horrible person, and he's a Texan (in their eyes). That's why I think it could have a negative effect on any Texas cities' chances, whether it's fair or not.

I think that international views of a city could actually help a place like Boston, which is supposedly looked at in a very positive light from an international standpoint.
I can't help if so much of the rest of the world is so ignorant. Ironically, it's often Texans accused of being so ignorant of elsewhere.
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Old 11-16-2009, 02:57 PM
 
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I don't think the W association should matter anyway. In the least. This is a whole other topic, but I wouldn't be surprised if in hindsight, people realize he wasn't nearly as bad as he was made out to be by the biased media and other sources. Just my opinion.
Very true...the horrible Bush presidency is fresh in our minds at the moment. Who really remembers what they hated about Nixon or Reagan at this point? As soon as we get another evil leader, no one will give Bush a second thought.
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Old 11-16-2009, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in the universe
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I think it will be tough for any cities in Texas to get the olympics, simply because to many foreigners Texas represents "evil" America. It's home to cowboys, big cars, highways, and W. Whether or not it's fair or true, it seems to be how outsiders view the state.
You see I agree with you and then again I don't. Hollywood loves to give the world these images, but then again there are so many smart people out there, so I have a feeling things would be okay. I don't think it would factor in too much. I think we Americans make it a bigger deal. If anything it would actually help Texas as long as they stay away from too many stereotypes because once you get down to it, you realize that the big Texas cities are just cities and offer everything if not more than any other city.
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Old 11-16-2009, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Uh, pollution is barely the tip of the iceburg.

Try severe human rights abuses, insane animal cruelty, pirating & very questionable business practices, communism, etc.



I can't help if so much of the rest of the world is so ignorant. Ironically, it's often Texans accused of being so ignorant of elsewhere.
I agree with you 100% on both of those issues. I'm simply saying how others seem to perceive the United States, Texas, and Bush. I certainly don't agree with those people.
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Old 11-16-2009, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Denver
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You see I agree with you and then again I don't. Hollywood loves to give the world these images, but then again there are so many smart people out there, so I have a feeling things would be okay. I don't think it would factor in too much. I think we Americans make it a bigger deal. If anything it would actually help Texas as long as they stay away from too many stereotypes because once you get down to it, you realize that the big Texas cities are just cities and offer everything if not more than any other city.
Very true. But if other cities like Boston and Minneapolis which are liberal and more in line with European politics, are in the running for the Olympics, wouldn't you agree it may give them an advantage over the traditionally conservative cities of Texas?
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