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Old 11-14-2009, 07:02 PM
 
Location: MI
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Men have sex with other men in prison simply because there are no women to have sex with. They're not gay, they just decide that having sex with another man is better than not having sex at all.
Exactly, and it's not just about power and control by the stronger inmate either. Sex in prison itself is quite often a violation of facility rules and/or state law, whether it's between a man or women. It's a situation of "I'm already locked up, what are you going to do, punish me?". It's giving the state a middle finger.

Pornography and nude photos of inmates' wifes, girlfriends, lovers on the outside are generally forbidden in prison and one of the reasons is that they will tape or display it on the back of the rape victim while they are committing the assault. No gay guy is going to do that, he's not trying to "substitute" anything.
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Old 11-14-2009, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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Exactly, and it's not just about power and control by the stronger inmate either. Sex in prison itself is quite often a violation of facility rules and/or state law, whether it's between a man or women. It's a situation of "I'm already locked up, what are you going to do, punish me?". It's giving the state a middle finger.

Pornography and nude photos of inmates' wifes, girlfriends, lovers on the outside are generally forbidden in prison and one of the reasons is that they will tape or display it on the back of the rape victim while they are committing the assault. No gay guy is going to do that, he's not trying to "substitute" anything.
And this is why you try your damn hardest to never go to prison. My plan is just to **** on myself all day.
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Old 11-14-2009, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Sarasota, Florida
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Can't they have conjugal visits with random females who want to do "you know what" with a prisoner.

Maybe I just watch too much prison movies.
It's a valid point.
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Old 11-14-2009, 11:24 PM
 
Location: right under the ceiling fan ;)
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I am NOT at all gay, but it just boils me to hear how some people bash gays. Gays should feel safe just like us hetrosexuals no matter what you sexual orientation is.
Anyone who bashes gays are just so stupid!!! Gay people are people just like short people are people just like tall people are people etc, they have feelings like anyone else.
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Old 11-14-2009, 11:31 PM
 
Location: Alaska & Florida
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It's funny how the South is often associated with homophobia and hate crimes against gays and lesbians, but researching the attacks that made headlines, there seems no bias towards the South. Indeed, just as many in the Midwest and especially the rural West. I'm not sure about racial violence, but it seems the likelihood is even higher in say Wyoming than Georgia, although the lower population density might balance that out.
Any state that is very conservative and the risk usually increases in the rural parts of that state.
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Old 11-14-2009, 11:58 PM
 
Location: 30-40°N 90-100°W
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I am NOT at all gay, but it just boils me to hear how some people bash gays. Gays should feel safe just like us hetrosexuals no matter what you sexual orientation is.
Anyone who bashes gays are just so stupid!!! Gay people are people just like short people are people just like tall people are people etc, they have feelings like anyone else.
I remember getting in a conversation once where one of my sisters said "The Bible does say they are to be stoned." I don't think she was really advocated stoning them, but I think it was a way to say "it's way way worse than anything." I told her the part of Leviticus that says one should stone homosexuals also says we should stone adulterers and she at first didn't believe it.

I wasn't really surprised, but it's interesting how many Christians don't just see "homosexuality as a sin like adultery" but as something way way worse than that. (Interestingly I saw a man online once who seemed to indicate homosexuality was a sin but that same-sex marriage should be allowed because we allow adulterers to leave their spouse and marry their mistress or fling.) Another thing though is that with men it doesn't even always seem to be a religious thing. I've seen men who don't seem at all religious, but who have a problem with gays.
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Old 11-15-2009, 12:15 AM
 
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I remember getting in a conversation once where one of my sisters said "The Bible does say they are to be stoned." I don't think she was really advocated stoning them, but I think it was a way to say "it's way way worse than anything." I told her the part of Leviticus that says one should stone homosexuals also says we should stone adulterers and she at first didn't believe it.

I wasn't really surprised, but it's interesting how many Christians don't just see "homosexuality as a sin like adultery" but as something way way worse than that. (Interestingly I saw a man online once who seemed to indicate homosexuality was a sin but that same-sex marriage should be allowed because we allow adulterers to leave their spouse and marry their mistress or fling.) Another thing though is that with men it doesn't even always seem to be a religious thing. I've seen men who don't seem at all religious, but who have a problem with gays.
Did you remind her that the Bible also says that women shouldn't speak in public?
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Old 11-15-2009, 01:06 AM
 
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I remember getting in a conversation once where one of my sisters said "The Bible does say they are to be stoned." I don't think she was really advocated stoning them, but I think it was a way to say "it's way way worse than anything." I told her the part of Leviticus that says one should stone homosexuals also says we should stone adulterers and she at first didn't believe it.

I wasn't really surprised, but it's interesting how many Christians don't just see "homosexuality as a sin like adultery" but as something way way worse than that. (Interestingly I saw a man online once who seemed to indicate homosexuality was a sin but that same-sex marriage should be allowed because we allow adulterers to leave their spouse and marry their mistress or fling.) Another thing though is that with men it doesn't even always seem to be a religious thing. I've seen men who don't seem at all religious, but who have a problem with gays.

Well gay people and religion have nothing to do with one another. That's like saying speaking a certain language or being left handed are tied to religion. I'm an extremely easy going guy about almost anything and everything - but one thing that always makes me roll my eyes is the whole religion and gay thing. I was born, I grew up, and I'm gay. That's about as interesting as the story gets. Someone walking up to be and telling me I'm damned to hell because I'm gay is like saying that everyone who was born in the month of September is going to hell because it's an evil month.

Really? I didn't choose this, I've never done anything to hurt another person. I have friends, a decent job, a loving family and carry on my life just like everyone else. I'm honestly going to hell and am some sort of abomination because if you line up 100 people I for whatever reason in my human traits and am attracted to people that is different from most?

Wayyyyyyy more important things to worry about.
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Old 11-15-2009, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia,New Jersey, NYC!
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i posted those stats, and i never compared to other cities in the US, just Bay Area cities.

Also i'm pretty sure you have no way of knowing whether people in SF are more likely to report crimes than people in San Jose or Oakland. I'd say it's likely not true. The SFPD doesn't exactly have the best reputation. They often try to convince you NOT to report crimes, telling you that it's "pointless." SF also has many immigrants who are probably less likely to report crimes as well, not to mention a gangster culture just like any other city, in which snitching can definitely get you killed. What about when the SFPD installed gunshot detectors a few years ago, and discovered that tons of gunfire in the city doesn't get reported? Just saying that i'm not sure where you got the idea that crimes are reported more in SF, compared to other cities.

I'll give my theory on why SF is so much higher than other cities in the bay in this regard. SF has the highest gay population to begin with, SF is known as having the largest gay population (nice destination if you wanna go beat gay people i guess?), and also insecure homophobic SF residents who resent the cities "gay image" and who take it out on gay people. But 38 incidents still doesn't seem like that many. In fact i'd say it seems kinda low. The rest of the bay is just even lower...i wonder how other cities around the US compare.
totally agree. given the population density, 38 isn't a lot. i'd be more concerned with 38 in like SLC or something.
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Old 11-15-2009, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Sarasota, Florida
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I am NOT at all gay, but it just boils me to hear how some people bash gays. Gays should feel safe just like us hetrosexuals no matter what you sexual orientation is.
Anyone who bashes gays are just so stupid!!! Gay people are people just like short people are people just like tall people are people etc, they have feelings like anyone else.
Thanx...I wish some posters in the political forum would read your post....they can be MEAN and CRUEL along with pretty "DUMB"...LOL. .
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