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View Poll Results: Which do you think in the best, affordable city?
Phoenix, AZ 1 1.96%
Denver, CO 6 11.76%
Atlanta, GA 3 5.88%
Chicago, IL 3 5.88%
Detroit, MI 3 5.88%
Minneapolis, MN 4 7.84%
Pittsburgh, PA 8 15.69%
Philadelphia, PA 2 3.92%
Dallas, TX 3 5.88%
Houston, TX 9 17.65%
San Antonio, TX 3 5.88%
Other (please state) 6 11.76%
Voters: 51. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-14-2007, 05:21 PM
 
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We would? Not me. I love Denver because it's everything San Francsico is not.
Just curious-is Denver affordable? I love Colorado, although I haven't been there since the late 80's when I worked for Club Med Copper Mtn. That was fun!
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Old 05-14-2007, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Lakewood, CO
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Just curious-is Denver affordable? I love Colorado, although I haven't been there since the late 80's when I worked for Club Med Copper Mtn. That was fun!
Denver has nothing to do with the resorts. They are in the same state and share economic benefits, but culturally and otherwise they are worlds apart (and Denver's part of the Heartland, for that matter). Compared to other cities, Denver is quite affordable. It's not as cheap as some cities in the south, but for the lifestyle you get, I'd say it's plenty affordable.
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Old 05-14-2007, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Lincoln, Nebraska (moving to Ohio)
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I voted for Minneapolis although not affordable at all, considering the wage scale overall in Minneapolis the people seem to do pretty well in the Twin Cities (high wages, moderate housing)

Also, Des Moines is an excpetional smaller city that is affordable just I would never recommend moving there single.
Des Moines (cheap housing, moderate wage scale, very few social problems)
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Old 05-14-2007, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Polish Hill, Pittsburgh, PA
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I voted for Pittsburgh, as it seems to have all of the strengths that larger, more complex metropolitan areas have while having a fraction of the problems and a much lower cost-of-living. For example, Pittsburgh has a thriving fine arts scene, a great professional sports following (Penguins, Steelers, Pirates), excellent hospitals, colleges, and universities, historic architecture, ethnically-distinct neighborhoods, etc. However, its traffic congestion issues are minimal, crime is low for a city of its size, and it is still quite possible to find a "starter home" in an up-and-coming neighborhood. Its biggest "cons" are probably the declining population/tax base, negative and nasty city natives who have a "Pittsburgh Stinks" mentality, and high air pollution. Nevertheless, I'd love to live in a place like Pittsburgh!

If I had the option for a second vote, it would go to Minneapolis/St. Paul. A third vote would go to Scranton/Wilkes-Barre, PA, which I think is poised for a major upswing in the coming years as the exodus of NYC/NJ dwellers continues into NEPA for the lower cost-of-living.
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Old 05-15-2007, 12:23 AM
 
Location: Lincoln, Nebraska (moving to Ohio)
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I voted for Pittsburgh, as it seems to have all of the strengths that larger, more complex metropolitan areas have while having a fraction of the problems and a much lower cost-of-living. For example, Pittsburgh has a thriving fine arts scene, a great professional sports following (Penguins, Steelers, Pirates), excellent hospitals, colleges, and universities, historic architecture, ethnically-distinct neighborhoods, etc. However, its traffic congestion issues are minimal, crime is low for a city of its size, and it is still quite possible to find a "starter home" in an up-and-coming neighborhood. Its biggest "cons" are probably the declining population/tax base, negative and nasty city natives who have a "Pittsburgh Stinks" mentality, and high air pollution. Nevertheless, I'd love to live in a place like Pittsburgh!

If I had the option for a second vote, it would go to Minneapolis/St. Paul. A third vote would go to Scranton/Wilkes-Barre, PA, which I think is poised for a major upswing in the coming years as the exodus of NYC/NJ dwellers continues into NEPA for the lower cost-of-living.
I dont understand why Pittsburghers have a inferiority complex. Its one of the best cities in the country, cities that have nothing on the level of what Pittsburgh has brag why so shouldnt Pittsburgh.

The one thing that makes Pittsburgh incredible in my opinion is the neighborhoods. With the increase in people nationwide wanting live in an urban environment Pittsburgh is one of the best in that regard.

Its amazing so many people want are moving to topographically appealing areas like (Boise), that have dense urban devolopment, alot of college towns are seeing an influx (Springfield, Iowa City). Pittsburgh pretty much has all these different positive traits that many of the most popular cities now only have one.

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Also, Denver is affordable depending on neighborhood there are big ranges from neighborhood to neighborhood. Denver still has tons of neighborhoods that have not had gentification on a large level so it is still very, very affordable in some areas. Globeville, Elyria and SW Denver south of 6th and west of Federal Blvd and the Yosemite/Tamarac area from Colfax to Alameda it might be possible to get a small fixer-upper for less then 100,000.

Overall, the reason why Denver is higher then it otherwise would be is people moving with all their California equity to places like Washington Park, Cherry Creek, Hilltop and Chessman Park have moved in raising the property values alot in those areas and those neighborhoods are much, much more expensive then the rest of Denver.

The same square footage that is 400,000 in Washington Park in South-east Denver might go for 125,000-150,000 in the Federal/Alameda area of SW Denver, Globeville or Elyria in North Denver.

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