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Old 11-17-2009, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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Good day everyone. I hope you are feeling fine. The top five all around heathiest states are:
Vermont
Utah
Massachusetts
Hawaii
New Hampshire

The bottom five are:

Bottom
South Carolina
Louisiana
Alabama
Oklahoma
Mississippi

See the complete list here. The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States - Forbes.com
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Old 11-17-2009, 05:12 PM
 
Location: 30-40N 90-100W
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Looks plausible. I have a connection to the South, but it is high in poverty and fried foods. Whatever problems it may have Utah's people really do smoke less than others.
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Old 11-17-2009, 05:22 PM
 
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I immediately have a problem with the methodology...one of the "health indicators" used is number of cancer deaths. Cancer is usually not caused by an unhealthy lifestyle, especially since we don't really know what causes most types of cancer.
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Old 11-17-2009, 05:28 PM
 
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Looks plausible. I have a connection to the South, but it is high in poverty and fried foods. Whatever problems it may have Utah's people really do smoke less than others.
The South as a region does excel in poverty...but of the 25 states with the most poverty, 15 are in regions other than the South. So there is plenty of poverty to go around and it's spread all across the country. Fried foods are common everywhere, and are really a personal choice. It's not like anyone is forcing people to eat fried foods, but Big Macs far outsell salads at McDonald's in every corner of the U.S.
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Old 11-17-2009, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Floribama
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Anybody notice the huge gap between Kansas and Oklahoma (24 & 49)? I find it hard to believe things are THAT different between those two states.
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Old 11-17-2009, 05:48 PM
 
Location: 30-40N 90-100W
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I immediately have a problem with the methodology...one of the "health indicators" used is number of cancer deaths. Cancer is usually not caused by an unhealthy lifestyle, especially since we don't really know what causes most types of cancer.
Is this about healthiest in terms of lifestyle? I guess I thought it was healthiest in terms of how they fare in average health.

The New England states have some of the counties highest in alcohol consumption, going by City-Data, but they're relatively affluent and educated so likely have a good deal of doctors nearby when one of them plows into a tree while on a bender. Same with some of the Midwest states that are high. I think there are parts of the rural South where doctors may not be that available. This wasn't precisely the case where I lived in the rural South, but I was very near Fort Smith, Arkansas. The little town I spent my infancy is now considered to be part of that city's metropolitan area, although it's still basically rural as far as I can tell.
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Old 11-17-2009, 06:14 PM
 
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Is this about healthiest in terms of lifestyle? I guess I thought it was healthiest in terms of how they fare in average health.

The New England states have some of the counties highest in alcohol consumption, going by City-Data, but they're relatively affluent and educated so likely have a good deal of doctors nearby when one of them plows into a tree while on a bender. Same with some of the Midwest states that are high. I think there are parts of the rural South where doctors may not be that available. This wasn't precisely the case where I lived in the rural South, but I was very near Fort Smith, Arkansas. The little town I spent my infancy is now considered to be part of that city's metropolitan area, although it's still basically rural as far as I can tell.
I don't know really...I couldn't find a full listing of the factors they considered for this list. The article mentioned 3 factors, and cancer deaths was one. I was just saying that I don't consider cancer an indicator of an unhealthy state because we don't even know what causes most types of cancer.
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Old 11-17-2009, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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They used 22 indicators of health to decide the rankings. Thing like Obesity,smoking, and child recommended vaccinations. I guess it's good to consider all kinds of things.
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Old 11-17-2009, 06:31 PM
 
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They used 22 indicators of health to decide the rankings. Thing like Obesity,smoking, and child recommended vaccinations. I guess it's good to consider all kinds of things.
Yes, those are the other three indicators listed besides cancer deaths, but I searched and couldn't find the rest of the 22. I just can't see how cancer fits in with the others.
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Old 11-17-2009, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Coastal Northeast
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Cancer is usually not caused by an unhealthy lifestyle, especially since we don't really know what causes most types of cancer.
Since you [correctly] indicate that we don't know what causes cancer, how do you know it's not caused by an unhealthy lifestyle?

I think the poster who said availability of jobs --> health insurance ---> doctors factors into this is correct. New England is very big on leading a healthy lifestyle (with exceptions, of course), hence the reason why many small towns dislike and [successfully] protest chain restaurants.
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