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Old 11-21-2009, 01:51 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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"Is the stereotype of the hard-drinkin' moonshine-brewing, Jack Daniels-swillin Scots-irish Southerner all wrong?"

Yes, it is. They prefer Beam, it's more cost-effective.
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Old 11-21-2009, 04:35 PM
 
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There is a misconception about who the Scotch-irish were. The Scotch-Irish were French, German, Swiss, Scottish, and English.

You may be thinking of the Irish, who are stereotyped as such.
If they're French, German, Scottish or English then they're not Scots-Irish.
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Old 11-21-2009, 04:37 PM
 
Location: where my heart is
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They aren't all SOUTHERNERS either.
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Old 11-21-2009, 11:10 PM
 
Location: 30-40N 90-100W
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They aren't all SOUTHERNERS either.
Yup. Some of the most Scots-Irish places in America are in Western Pennsylvania. The Northern Rockies and Maine also seem to have a good deal of that ethnicity.

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Old 11-22-2009, 04:34 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I was looking at this map

http://thepanhandlersguide.com/wp-co...nsumption.jpeg

I noticed that the Appalachian states of TN, WV, and KY have the lowest levels of alcohol consumption. That shocked me.. (and yes, i do realize there are many evangelicals who live there and that Christianity frowns upon drunkeness)
I'm presuming the stats for consumption come from alcohol sales because really, how do they count the booze you make yourself? Then I wonder, if you actually go into a bar/store to buy booze do they check your national origin? I don't think so. Lastly, since I can't bring up the link (you need to link to the page not the jpg picture if you use the Insert Link icon), is it based on percentages of the population or population numbers? If it's based on numbers of alcohol sales, we just don't have as many people as some other locations. And yes, there are a lot of baptists, here.

P.S. Last I heard the Jack Daniels distillery is in a dry county.
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Old 11-22-2009, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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I called Colonel Vaughn Wilson in Mulberry, Arkansas, to chat about his unusual products. They are fully functional, 99.9 percent pure copper vessels capable of distilling alcohol in amounts from 10 gallons on up. The Colonel says he shipped one 60-gallon model to a customer in Tennessee, but his best customers (in descending order) live in North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, West Virginia, and Tennessee. He claims to have shipped his wares to every state in the country.
The perfect Christmas gift: your own copper moonshine still Tennessee Guy
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Old 11-25-2009, 02:59 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia 'Burbs
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This thread amuses me.
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Old 11-25-2009, 07:05 AM
 
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If they're French, German, Scottish or English then they're not Scots-Irish.

Read the third paragraph...


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Old 11-25-2009, 07:06 AM
 
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There is a misconception about who the Scotch-irish were. The Scotch-Irish were French, German, Swiss, Scottish, and English.

You may be thinking of the Irish, who are stereotyped as such.



i think you are misinterpreting that map.

you posted it wrong,

http://thepanhandlersguide.com/wp-co...nsumption.jpeg

but I looked it up on the website, and took a look -

it measures the percentage of people who have had 1 alcoholic drink in the past 30 days. In an area with a high percentage of evangelical protestants, you will have a higher number of people who abstain completely. Other regions will have higher numbers of catholics and athiests, who I suspect will be more likely to drink casually (at least 1 drink a month). So really you are just measuring the prevalence of casual, minor alcohol consumption - while your conclusion is that of severe alcohol consumption.

It sounds like what you need to do is find a dataset that shows alcoholism rates, and how likely people are to have multiple drinks in shorter periods of time.


For what it is worth, I think you are correct - I am betting that the Scots-Irish south is going to have high rates of liquor consumption, as well as high rates of alcoholism, considering their climate. The biggest factor in alcohol consumption seems to be climate. People in cold climates drink far more.

Everyone that posted on this thread should read this...

Scotch-Irish American - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 11-25-2009, 07:57 AM
 
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That's because there are two very different types of Southerners who live side by side. There's the hardcore, Bible Belt Christians. Their lives revolve around church. Probably there every day of the week. And then there's the hard-drinking, moonshine-brewing, (yeah everything else in the title) These people probably believe in God, but could give a damn about church.

Then there's the people in the middle who are influenced by both groups. Sometimes individuals have characteristics from both since both groups are influential in the South. That's why people think of both of these stereotypes when they think about the South, even though they seem to contradict.
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