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Old 04-20-2010, 11:59 AM
 
Location: The Lakes
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I can't believe Detroit actually fell to number 4. That's about the last thing I was expecting. Also surprises me that some Southern cities besides New Orleans actually made the list this year. Birmingham surprises me greatly. Memphis not as much, but I was surprised it made this list. I tend to really not pay as much attention to these lists anymore, as metro areas encompass multiple counties nowadays....city limits and county boundaries are starting to become less and less significant except for political boundaries.
As much as those who live in the 'burbs and those who have moved away bitterly would like you to believe, it is VERY slowly coming back. There are still enclaves of well to do citizens, and with the rise of urban farming and Dave Bing, the city is seeing dramatic drops in crime rate and even a few jobs becoming available.

Once the economy is diversified, Detroit will be a nifty place to live. I'm gonna get to it before all those Californians do though!
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Old 04-20-2010, 04:57 PM
 
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Here is something else that I notice. Most Black people DO NOT commit crimes. Most of the crime is committed by a small part of the population. With that said, much of the crime committed by Blacks is concentrated very high in predominantly Black areas. There can be safe, predominantly Black areas. I should know this because I am doing a project about crime in Atlanta. There are areas in Atlanta that are predominantly African-American and have low crime rates. Then again, many middle-class and affluent African-Americans have concentrated themselves in a few areas of the city. Same with Los Angeles with View Park-Windsor Hills, Ladera Park and Baldwin Village. Predominantly Black areas that are very affluent. They are out there. I don't know what goes on in PGH when it comes to middle-class African-Americans.
What about Latinos in Atlanta??? Aren't there a Large Number of Latinos living in Atlanta??? And to my understanding Latinos are also grouped in with the increasing crime rate associated with Gang Activity..........
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Old 04-20-2010, 05:13 PM
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Location: Oakland
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What about Latinos in Atlanta??? Aren't there a Large Number of Latinos living in Atlanta??? And to my understanding Latinos are also grouped in with the increasing crime rate associated with Gang Activity..........
Atlanta city pop: 537,958
4.9% hispanic (26,359)

Atlanta CSA pop: 5,831,778
9.6% hispanic (559,851)

That's a somewhat significant hispanic population i guess, but it's pretty low compared to many other cities.
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Old 04-20-2010, 06:31 PM
 
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Good to see Flint off the list and Detroit falling!
Did you even look at the list? Flint is number 5 in the whole country one spot behind Detroit, although 5 is the lowest Flint has seen in a long while as it is usuall abou number 3.
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Old 04-20-2010, 07:47 PM
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What about Latinos in Atlanta??? Aren't there a Large Number of Latinos living in Atlanta??? And to my understanding Latinos are also grouped in with the increasing crime rate associated with Gang Activity..........
There is an increasing Hispanic population in Atlanta. There are Hispanic gangs in metro Atlanta. That being said, I still meet alot of Hispanics who aren't invovled in gangs, many are in school. Being on a college campus, I see many Hispanics in college.
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:32 PM
 
Location: The Lakes
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Did you even look at the list? Flint is number 5 in the whole country one spot behind Detroit, although 5 is the lowest Flint has seen in a long while as it is usuall abou number 3.
Whoops! Didn't see it there!

But compared to what it used to be, both cities are seeing double digit decreases in violence, and Flint used to hold #1
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:43 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/ Seattle-Bellevue/ Cupertino, Cali
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Wow! What happened to good ol' Gary, Indiana?

I thought Gary, Indiana and Newark, New Jersey were good "rivals" with each other in terms of most dangerous US city?
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Old 04-20-2010, 11:21 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
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Wow! What happened to good ol' Gary, Indiana?

I thought Gary, Indiana and Newark, New Jersey were good "rivals" with each other in terms of most dangerous US city?
Those were more of the early 90s poster childs of the most dangerous cities.

Newark is still rough but it's crime rate has been decreased a lot since back then. It's still in the top 25 most years though. Gary, Indiana is still as bad as it was back then, if not worse. They still have one of the highest murder rates in the country. I seriously doubt it's police force even reports the numbers right for the other crimes. If it was reported right it would easily be in the top 10.
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Old 04-20-2010, 11:57 PM
 
Location: pittsburgh
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Here is something else that I notice. Most Black people DO NOT commit crimes. Most of the crime is committed by a small part of the population. With that said, much of the crime committed by Blacks is concentrated very high in predominantly Black areas. There can be safe, predominantly Black areas. I should know this because I am doing a project about crime in Atlanta. There are areas in Atlanta that are predominantly African-American and have low crime rates. Then again, many middle-class and affluent African-Americans have concentrated themselves in a few areas of the city. Same with Los Angeles with View Park-Windsor Hills, Ladera Park and Baldwin Village. Predominantly Black areas that are very affluent. They are out there. I don't know what goes on in PGH when it comes to middle-class African-Americans.
Well we dont have what you would call a middle class area for blacks in Pgh IMHO....they are all intermingled among the whites. Im not middle class to tell you the truth Im border line poor but I make other sacrifices to live in a safer area to raise my son. I agree with some of your points but it just seems like everytime something bad happens here its ALWAYS in a black neighborhood. Most things seem to be drug related etc...but still its sad and annoying. We cant have black night clubs or bars because these idiots around here dont know how to act. They always want to shoot up the club or start fighting. I wish things were different but its been like this my entire life here.
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Old 04-21-2010, 12:13 AM
 
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Whoops! Didn't see it there!

But compared to what it used to be, both cities are seeing double digit decreases in violence, and Flint used to hold #1
Yeah they have "supposedly" seen major decreases in all violent crime categories but for cities which such high rates it is hard to see the difference as they are still insanely high (Flint has the highest rate of robbery or burguraly, I forget which one, in the country). I never knew Flint had been named number 1 but it doesn't suprise me as I can't recall a list that didn't include both Detroit and Flint in the top 5. I live in Flint currently and it is in as bad of shape as ever, although murders this year seem to be down, but in the newspaper there are daily reports of shootings and robbery's at gunpoint. To make matters worse for Flint, they recently in March layed off something like 54 police officers and 20-something fireman. Now at any one time in Flint there is only 3 police officers patrolling a city of roughly 100,000. In the weeks following the layoffs there were roughly 30 politically based arsons of both abandoned and occupied homes in Flint, and they are continuing now with roughly 1 a day if not more it seems like.
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