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View Poll Results: What is the most liberal area in the USA?
Chicago 1 1.79%
NYC 5 8.93%
Boston 6 10.71%
Austin, TX 0 0%
Seattle 4 7.14%
Portland 6 10.71%
LA 2 3.57%
San Fransisco 28 50.00%
Washington DC proper 2 3.57%
Other (please specify) 2 3.57%
Voters: 56. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-25-2009, 09:35 PM
 
Location: 30-40N 90-100W
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For those unfamiliar with NY politics, "Rockefeller Republican" is equivalent to moderate Democat in other areas of the country. Yes, NYS has a tradition of left-leaning Republicans (a more recent example is Dede Scozzafava, the GOPer in Dist. 23 who was ousted by the current hard liners and their radio blowhards).

Also, since you are naming small areas, don't forget NE MN--Duluth & the Iron Range. That's St. Louis, Lake and Cook counties. They don't get any bluer.
Good choice and I considered mentioning them. In Presidential races Herbert Hoover in 1928 was the last Republican to carry St. Louis County. No Republican has carried the county in Senate or Governor races since 1990 at latest.
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Old 11-26-2009, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Lakeland, Florida
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I found you have to define what liberal means to you. The definition of the word seems to change somewhat especially from the East to West Coast. I'm from Southeastern Mass not far from Boston. I live in Portland, Oregon. I do not find the liberalism the same between Mass and Portland. By the way Oregon in itself is extremely conservative other than Portland and Eugene. I was terribly disapointed in Portland as a liberal area. It is Radical Politics in your face every day and to me that is not Liberalism. I vote Boston or NYC.
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Old 11-26-2009, 08:05 PM
 
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There are also some distinctions between Liberal and Left, at least in some places. One of the first times I saw that was on this one writers site where an author told a self-described liberal that he was a Leftist and disdained liberals as much as conservatives. (Judging by what he said this seemed to mean socialism and self-declared intolerance of "reactionary" religions)
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Old 11-26-2009, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia,New Jersey, NYC!
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where's philly?

once again crapped on
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Old 11-26-2009, 08:16 PM
 
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I found you have to define what liberal means to you. The definition of the word seems to change somewhat especially from the East to West Coast. I'm from Southeastern Mass not far from Boston. I live in Portland, Oregon. I do not find the liberalism the same between Mass and Portland. By the way Oregon in itself is extremely conservative other than Portland and Eugene. I was terribly disapointed in Portland as a liberal area. It is Radical Politics in your face every day and to me that is not Liberalism. I vote Boston or NYC.
Good point. Many of the posters here equate "liberal" with Blue state. Actually a blue state means it went Democratic in an election. But only 40% of Democrats consider themselves liberals, the remainder consider themselves moderates or conservatives. This was the widely accepted view of the parties for decades, until the radio blowhards declared every Democrat a liberal, and tried to declare every Republican a conservative. Much to their dismay, not all Repubs are conservatives (especially in the Northeast), so the blowhards call them RINOs, or in the case of Scozzafava, "not a Republican, but a liberal".
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Old 11-26-2009, 09:17 PM
 
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Good point. Many of the posters here equate "liberal" with Blue state. Actually a blue state means it went Democratic in an election. But only 40% of Democrats consider themselves liberals, the remainder consider themselves moderates or conservatives. This was the widely accepted view of the parties for decades, until the radio blowhards declared every Democrat a liberal, and tried to declare every Republican a conservative. Much to their dismay, not all Repubs are conservatives (especially in the Northeast), so the blowhards call them RINOs, or in the case of Scozzafava, "not a Republican, but a liberal".
I think both sides did some purging of ideologically strange members. Like supporting Lamont over Lieberman.

Still it's true there are blue states that aren't all that liberal. Delaware has went for the Democratic Presidential candidate from 1992 to today, gave Obama over 60% of their vote, has had Democratic governors since 1993, and currently has a Democratic majority in both houses of their state legislature. However 42% of them identify as conservative compared to just 20% of them identifying as liberal. Delaware was also the last state, so far, to hang a man doing so in 1996. Although they do not seem to have executed anyone since 2005. New Castle County seems to be the "blue" county in Delaware as the other two went for Bush twice and Sussex County went for McCain.

Political Ideology: "Conservative" Label Prevails in the South
State of Delaware - Executions Since 1992 - Department of Correction
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Old 11-26-2009, 10:04 PM
 
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Well, then, Minneapolis is definitely blue, but also of the progressive liberal model. I happen to like that, but wouldn't mind a few more vocal (but rational) opposing views (including within the DFL party) in local elections, even if I don't necessarily want them them to win.
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Old 11-27-2009, 09:28 PM
 
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where's philly?
In Pennsylvania

Seriously I see what you're saying. Pennsylvania's 1st and 2nd Districts are some of the most Democratic in the nation and represent areas of Philadelphia. The two men who represent those districts, Chaka Fatta and Bob Brady, are both in the Congressional Progressive Caucus. The other two Congressional representatives for Philadelphia are also Democrats. Although once Republican all the cities mayors have been Democratic since 1952. Presidential candidates who win Philadelphia county also have all been Democrats since around that time, maybe a bit later. (Eisenhower did well in some liberal areas)

Still it doesn't seem to be have an unusually high amount of homosexual couples for a large city. It's also not particularly well-educated. Not saying that determines liberalism but the current liberal-coalition seems to be "well-educated and pro-gay+poor ethnic minorities." Philadelphia doesn't seem to be high in an essential part of that.
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Old 11-28-2009, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Lakeland, Florida
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In Pennsylvania

Seriously I see what you're saying. Pennsylvania's 1st and 2nd Districts are some of the most Democratic in the nation and represent areas of Philadelphia. The two men who represent those districts, Chaka Fatta and Bob Brady, are both in the Congressional Progressive Caucus. The other two Congressional representatives for Philadelphia are also Democrats. Although once Republican all the cities mayors have been Democratic since 1952. Presidential candidates who win Philadelphia county also have all been Democrats since around that time, maybe a bit later. (Eisenhower did well in some liberal areas)

Still it doesn't seem to be have an unusually high amount of homosexual couples for a large city. It's also not particularly well-educated. Not saying that determines liberalism but the current liberal-coalition seems to be "well-educated and pro-gay+poor ethnic minorities." Philadelphia doesn't seem to be high in an essential part of that.
But does it have gay people I imagine it does. I notice on this particular website gay people are always referred to in references as gay couples. Rarely if ever do I see gay single, and Im sure there are plenty of them. Why are the numbers always reflecting couples? That leaves alot of gay people not being counted as part of the population.
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Old 11-29-2009, 03:57 AM
 
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San Franpsycho is first

Chicago is an underrated liberal haven
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