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Old 11-30-2009, 12:23 AM
 
Location: Armsanta Sorad
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Maybe because they pity the homeless.
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Old 11-30-2009, 12:30 AM
 
Location: Newark, California
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Simple people give because it makes them feel good like 'Yeah i gave to the homeless today, that means i did a good deed' when in fact most are just dirty old bums who just want cash to buy booze or drugs, and if the homeless person really did want help instead of asking for money they'd ask for help. If I'm in need of assistance I don't sit on the street corner asking for money, I try and solve my problem with a go get them approach. Sorry homeless people but there is absolutely no way I can tell if you really need my money for help or for a habit you can say its for help but once again how do I know its not just a lie?
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Old 11-30-2009, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Coastal New Jersey
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Dude, are you kidding me? You're taking the phrase bleeding heart to a new level.

If a homeless moocher needs half a bottle of Smirnoff and some pills to get him through the night it doesn't concern me in the least, but it will be a cold day in Hades before I fork over one penny of my hard-earned cash to support the crumb's habits.

Nothing's ever anyone's fault anymore. If someone's a drug addict, they must "need" it to get through their day and we would be ignorant by judging him/her. I'm sure it will sound just as logical when you or someone you love falls victim to a violent crime. Sound alarmist? Perhaps, but try rationalizing the plight of the downtrodden man when your wife or daughter suffers an attack.

Christ, when will people put down their granola and wake the hell up.
Some of us get there with age. There was a time when I had sympathy for drunks and druggies, thinking they were "ill" and that with care and love and help, they'd get better.

Now I know that they are where there are because they were selfish people who didn't want to grow up and be responsible and accountable in the first place. Very few truly want to get clean and sober, because then they will have to face Real Life. I've known too many and I've had enough. Straighten up or die. They aren't worth the trouble.

I support food pantries and soup kitchen because there really are real live people out there who are down on their luck or for whom life has taken a nasty turn. I'm not feeding any losers' habits, though.
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Old 11-30-2009, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Coastal New Jersey
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Buy them food instead. You would be suprised how many will refuse it. In addition, you would also be suprised about some of the criminal records of some of these seemingly harmless beggar types. If you want to help them, but them food or give to a homeless shelter. DO NOT GIVE THEM MONEY. Many use the money on drugs which just perpetrates the problem.
There used to be a woman who hung out in the concourse at the World Trade Center by the East River Savings Bank's ATMS. She would ask for $20. Not change, not a dollar, but $20. If you said no, she would scream at you "B*tch you got it all and I got nothing!" That was her line.

One day a group that was handing out sandwiches to the homeless in the downtown area gave her one and she threw it in the woman's face and said, "I don't want food! I want money!"

Usually no one bothered the homeless who worked the WTC for change, but that one was so abusive and annoying that the PAPD finally escorted her sorry ass out and told her not to come back in.
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Old 11-30-2009, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Coastal New Jersey
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Simple people give because it makes them feel good like 'Yeah i gave to the homeless today, that means i did a good deed' when in fact most are just dirty old bums who just want cash to buy booze or drugs, and if the homeless person really did want help instead of asking for money they'd ask for help. If I'm in need of assistance I don't sit on the street corner asking for money, I try and solve my problem with a go get them approach. Sorry homeless people but there is absolutely no way I can tell if you really need my money for help or for a habit you can say its for help but once again how do I know its not just a lie?
I've noticed that in Manhattan those white junkie kids who seem to have appeared in droves over the past few years all use the same wording on their cardboard signs. The same stories, about how they need $18 (it's always $18) for a room or some amount for "a ticket home". What pisses me off even more is that they often have a dog for a prop. I've seen different people on different blocks at different times with the same dog. They must pass it around.

Anyway, one day not long ago I see one of these kids and he's got his cardboard but he only got through the first part of PLEASE HELP ME, I AM and then there was a line going all the way down the cardboard to his hand, which still held the magic marker. He'd gone into his junkie nod before he got to finish writing. Apparently he didn't REALLY need money--he was high as a kite already.
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Old 11-30-2009, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Coastal New Jersey
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Perhaps you do not know but this goes deeper - some families can not find them, since they are mentally ill some have just left and their families do not have a clue.

Some are so mentally ill that they do not want the families - hence the mental illness.

Some famililes are barely making it
Some families do not know how to care for the mentally ill
Some families may be afraid to have their mentally ill sibling, relative, etc. around their chilren due to the illness and fear for the safety of the child
Some families do not know how to get help thus unable to provide adequate help

The list goes on and on

I was driving once to a local college and saw this very old woman digging in the garbage, I turned the corner and drove by again. When I saw her again she was actually eating something she pulled out of the dumpster, I grabbed a $20.00 bill out of my purse and walked over to give it to her. Never once did I think this was the wrong thing to do. I said excuse me, can I give you a little bit of m... and at that time she stopped and looked at me. I tried to continue but she went on to yell at me and call me every vulgar name in the book, she told me to leave her alone and get away.
To say I was scared is an understatement! I was near tears, I thought I was being compassionate but I never thought this obviously mentally ill person would treat me this way.
I will just keep rolling down my window and giving small amounts this way.

My point is, even as a family member I would not know how to keep a person like this in my home.
Have you ever read The Glass Castle by Jeannette Walls? That's how her book starts. She had a job with MSNBC and lived in a Park Avenue apartment in Manhattan...in a taxi on the way to a party she sees a woman digging through a trashcan and realizes it's her mother.
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Old 12-01-2009, 04:17 AM
 
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I usually only give money to kids or handicap (not the ones of crutches or sitting in a wheelchair, but people with missing legs or arms). I once tired to buy this kid (he was like 11) a meal at McDonald's and told him he could get whatever he wanted, but he was like "No, I just want 5 dollars!" and I told him no and he said "F**k you" and walked off.
Don't be fooled by kids. They're being used by their scumbag parents or even by "mafias". You're not helping them by giving them money.
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Old 12-01-2009, 06:10 AM
 
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People give money to the homeless because they know that it is only by the grace of God that its not them living on the street.
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Old 12-01-2009, 07:22 AM
 
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I usually don't because I usually don't have cash.
A whole lot of people on Madison asking for money actually dress better than me, so they don't get anything.
I do buy a Streetwise every now and then from vendors around the city, if I have the cash. StreetWise
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Old 12-01-2009, 10:27 AM
 
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People give money to the homeless because they know that it is only by the grace of God that its not them living on the street.
What the **** are you talking about
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