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Old 12-22-2009, 07:44 AM
 
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Why don't we attack the Canadian Maritimes and steal them away from Canada? Or invade Bermuda and take that from GB?
New Brunswick and Nova Scotia would be easily integrated into the culture of Northern New England. Not sure about Prince Edward Island, but it seems like it would be a decent fit as well.

The U.S. would reject Bermuda for the same reason it would ultimately reject Puerto Rico.
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Old 12-22-2009, 07:59 AM
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The U.S. would reject Bermuda for the same reason it would ultimately reject Puerto Rico.


its pr thats rejecting the u.s.
pr has a choice whether or not to become a state and they choose to remain a commonwealth. many on the island would rather pr be a separate country with no ties to the u.s. at all. others want statehood. others just wish for it to remain a commonwealth.
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Old 12-22-2009, 09:27 AM
 
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its pr thats rejecting the u.s.
pr has a choice whether or not to become a state and they choose to remain a commonwealth. many on the island would rather pr be a separate country with no ties to the u.s. at all. others want statehood. others just wish for it to remain a commonwealth.
Most Americans would not wish for Puerto Rico to become a state. Most Puerto Ricans do not wish for Puerto Rico to become a state. This is one of those rare geopolitical issues where both sides can be easily satiated - Independence for Puerto Rico. It would offend no one.
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Old 12-22-2009, 09:40 AM
 
Location: In The Outland
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Question Neato ! ?

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Wouldn't it be neato if we can put land over the atlantic ocean so we get more states east of the east coast states?? We can have states built on landfill where the atlantic ocean is up from the east coast beaches to a couple of miles off of africa/portugal. wouldn't it be cool to see new states there
NO NO NO ! it would not be neato , but it would be "nifty" to have more bombing ranges on artificial floating islands so we can let go of P.R. and let them fend for themselves.
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Old 12-22-2009, 11:18 AM
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Most Americans would not wish for Puerto Rico to become a state. Most Puerto Ricans do not wish for Puerto Rico to become a state. This is one of those rare geopolitical issues where both sides can be easily satiated - Independence for Puerto Rico. It would offend no one.
i disagree. i don't think a lot of americans, and certainly not a majority, have an opinion on the subject at all.

most don't even know what pr is to america and why it should or shouldn't become a state. a lot of ppl are ignorant when it comes to anything outside of the mainland.

the other day i heard a reporter on cnn (or msnbc...i don't remember) say that if he won the lotto and became wealthy he would move out of the u.s. to hawaii.


...


...yes, hawaii.

anyway, most pr's wish that pr would either become a state or to remain a commonwealth. the ppl that wish for pr's independence are a minority.

economically, pr would benefit from becoming a state, IMO (their congress got shut down last year because of budget issues...iirc, the mainland bailed them out).
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Old 12-22-2009, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I think we should probably get rid of a few states before adding any.

Not that I have any in mind...
then your not a true american
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Old 12-22-2009, 07:17 PM
 
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then your not a true american
I don't believe that most people have love for all the states. I'm not going to get into my preferences, as we all have them.

I doubt the same people who champion New York, California, Texas, etc. have the same love for Iowa or West Virginia.
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Old 12-22-2009, 07:19 PM
 
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i disagree. i don't think a lot of americans, and certainly not a majority, have an opinion on the subject at all.

most don't even know what pr is to america and why it should or shouldn't become a state. a lot of ppl are ignorant when it comes to anything outside of the mainland.

the other day i heard a reporter on cnn (or msnbc...i don't remember) say that if he won the lotto and became wealthy he would move out of the u.s. to hawaii.


...


...yes, hawaii.

anyway, most pr's wish that pr would either become a state or to remain a commonwealth. the ppl that wish for pr's independence are a minority.

economically, pr would benefit from becoming a state, IMO (their congress got shut down last year because of budget issues...iirc, the mainland bailed them out).
Ultimately, the ignorance of the citzenry aside, what is in the best interests of the U.S. should be the only thing considered for the final decision. So, leave Puerto Rico a Commonwealth if that appeases the federal government and the Puerto Rican voting base, but the last thing we need is to add a state which is culturally and ethnically a foreign land.
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Old 12-22-2009, 07:24 PM
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IMHO, pr is no different than say...hawaii was before it was a state.
also it could be argued that culturally and ethnically, nyc alone is completely different in many ways than the rest of the u.s. should we secede?
don't answer that. i'm sure many ppl want nyc to go away haha.
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Old 12-22-2009, 07:34 PM
 
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IMHO, pr is no different than say...hawaii was before it was a state.
also it could be argued that culturally and ethnically, nyc alone is completely different in many ways than the rest of the u.s. should we secede?
don't answer that. i'm sure many ppl want nyc to go away haha.
That's partially true, but let's be honest - Hawaii was plundered. It was chosen as a state because its native population (the native Hawaiins) were easily culturally suppressed and the island was largely repopulated with whites from the mainland and some Orientals, such as the Japanese, who enjoyed the island for its Pacific location, its opportunities in cropping and physical labor, and its tropical climate. I'm glad it's a state now as it has been successfully integrated, but do we really need any more states at this point? Most of the ones we have now dislike each other and the country is already wildly different/polarized.

New York City of course has a large foreign/immigrant/exchange population, but the same can be said of, say, Los Angeles. I don't think most Americans want NYC to secede; most Americans just don't want to have their politics dominated by the Northeast and the NYC-Boston-Baltimore-Philadelphia-D.C. axis.
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