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Old 01-04-2010, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by johnatl View Post
Absolutely. There is no way that Detroit's influence extends all the way across the UP!
I'd say that areas like Green Bay, Duluth/Superior(somewhat) and maybe the Grand Rapids and Saginaw/Bay City/Midland areas have more influence. Marquette and Sault Ste. Marie pretty much are the only urban/metro like areas up there.
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Old 01-04-2010, 04:14 PM
Location: Fort Myers-Naples-Marco Island, FL
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I diagree with the map because according to it Miami has the most influence on Southwest Florida. In my opinon the Fort Myers-Naples area is more closely linked to Tampa-Sarasota areas.
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Old 01-05-2010, 10:09 AM
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Big problems with California data. You gave people too many choices. If you give people choices like "The Peninsula," "Silicon Valley" and "Fremont" you end up with a balkanized mess. California already has a certain balkanized mentality and giving all those choices feeds into it.

Limit choices to major CBDs.
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Old 01-05-2010, 12:26 PM
Location: Oakland
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^i agree...notice how the San Jose sphere of influence is completely surrounded by the SF sphere of influence? There's a small SJ influenced area right around Modesto too, it looks like.
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Old 01-05-2010, 12:31 PM
Location: yeah
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It's hard to tell how many votes are extending these boundaries. There's a sliver of green south of Santa Barbara. Whose green is it?

R.I.P. Oakland
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Old 01-05-2010, 03:44 PM
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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Originally Posted by 18Montclair View Post
Here's a map of Bureau of Economic Area Economic Areas. I think this is a very good indicator of interdependent areas.

BEA Economic Areas by Population, 2007
New York 23,102,699
Los Angeles 19,495,361
Chicago 10,443,446
San Francisco 9,526,438
Washington 9,058,427
Boston 8,215,459
Dallas 7,755,470
Atlanta 7,371,342
Detroit 6,997,479
Philadelphia 6,893,584
Houston 6,511,821
Miami 6,085,767
MInneapolis 5,187,305
Phoenix 4,731,804
Cleveland 4,604,932
Seattle 4,539,568
Orlando 4,388,326
Denver 3,968,834
St Louis 3,366,542
Indianapolis 3,330,982
Raleigh 3,075,901
Portland 3,024,724
San Diego 2,959,734
Pittsburgh 2,879,762
Charlotte 2,779,570
Nashville 2,737,954
Tampa 2,715,273
Sacramento 2,694,692
Columbus 2,607,561
Kansas City 2,580,711
Salt Lake City 2,493,619
Cincinnati 2,31,587
Milwaukee 2,323,196
San Antonio 2,271,684
Las Vegas 2,255,920
Hartford 2,254,041
Harrisburg 2,106,841

BEA : CA1-3 - Population*1/
This is going to drive the Charlotte peeps crazy. Raleigh's BEA is larger than theirs. The sky is surely going to fall.
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Old 01-05-2010, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by rnc2mbfl View Post
This is going to drive the Charlotte peeps crazy. Raleigh's BEA is larger than theirs. The sky is surely going to fall.
Same with Syracuse, which actually has NY State's second largest BEA. Even more than Buffalo, Rochester and the Albany area.
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Old 01-05-2010, 08:20 PM
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Interesting to me that most of MN, plus the western third of WI identify with "Twin Cities", while the areas immediately to the SW of Minneapolis, plus a section of north central IA, plus the tip of the Arrowhead identify with "Minneapolis". I know, for those who don't live in the Twin Cities, you're probably thinking, same dif, but this map shows that many in this area DO make a distinction between Mpls and Twin Cities.
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Old 01-05-2010, 09:37 PM
Location: Southern Minnesota
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Like others have said, Michigan's data doesn't make much sense. The only major Michigan cities that were included are Detroit and Grand Rapids. If we're only including MAJOR cities, then the southwestern part of Michigan from a line below Kalamazoo and South Haven identifies with Chicago. Grand Rapids covers the central and west central areas of the state. The U.P. probably identifies more with Green Bay. Detroit's influence is confined to the southeast part of the state. Extreme southwest Michigan (the southern half of Berrien County and all of Cass County) is part of the South Bend metro, and identifies far more with Indianapolis and Chicago than Detroit. From Niles, Indianapolis is closer than Detroit, and Chicago is 90 miles away. Detroit isn't even on the radar here. I'm the only Lions fan I know of around here, most are Colts or Bears fans.
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Old 01-06-2010, 11:40 AM
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Having to make a living by traveling through rural PA I used to indulge in newspaper tube geography. Folks identified with the city they got their newspaper from. This works best for the next tier down size communities - but still ones with daily papers.
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