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View Poll Results: Washington DC: Southern, Northern, or No Man's Land?
Northern City with Southern Overtones 13 33.33%
Southern city with Northern Overtones 4 10.26%
A hybrid of both 13 33.33%
No Man's Land- its neither duck nor pond. 9 23.08%
Voters: 39. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-10-2007, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Boston Metrowest (via the Philly area)
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Virginia is not the North. If it is, then my ancestors are rolling in their graves.

I just wanted to claify that I never said Virginia, as a whole, is in the North, just NoVA and above. I've been to the Southern Virginia area a few times, and while it may not be like Alabama, I'd describe it as the "Upper-South." Hope that makes you feel better.
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Old 09-10-2007, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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I just wanted to claify that I never said Virginia, as a whole, is in the North, just NoVA and above. I've been to the Southern Virgnia area a few times, and while it may not be like Alabama, I'd describe it as the "Upper-South." Hope that makes you feel better.
Well, IMO, NOVA is not the North its the gateway to the South (it even says so in my travel book) and once you hit Richmond you're in the real South.
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Old 09-10-2007, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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Im from NY and when I visit DC it seems southern to me. But I'd call it a northern City with some southern characteristics.

As to Virginia.....imo it was more southern back in the day. Nowadays I consider it in the south, but not in the same way I think of Georgia. Anyways why would anyone take offense to someone saying its not Southern. Actually I think it is a compliment. Why would you wanna be considered a toothless hillbilly rascist hick....which is what the majority of the South is.

The north its where it's at.
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Old 09-10-2007, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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Im from NY and when I visit DC it seems southern to me. But I'd call it a northern City with some southern characteristics.

As to Virginia.....imo it was more southern back in the day. Nowadays I consider it in the south, but not in the same way I think of Georgia. Anyways why would anyone take offense to someone saying its not Southern. Actually I think it is a compliment. Why would you wanna be considered a toothless hillbilly rascist hick....which is what the majority of the South is.

The north its where it's at.
Um excuse me? No.

Southern to me is none of that. Hilbillys and racism are everywhere- in the North too. Thats not what makes a place Southern. I would say thats not even a rural vs. urban either.


Southern to me is laid back, gentility, refinement, manners, hospitality , beautiful women, and lots of sweet tea.

Your assesment of the South is way off.

You can find lots of those ill bred hick folks in Upstate New York and Western Mass...
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Old 09-11-2007, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Kentucky
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I don't understand for the life of me why people try to compare deep South states to other Southern states. Is Alabama and Georgia the same? How about Mississippi and Louisiana?
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Old 09-11-2007, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Live in VA, Work in MD, Play in DC
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How is Richmond different from Baltimore or D.C.? They're both fairly fast paced, large metropolitan East Coast cities. They all have that same, intangible, hard to explain, northeastern feel. I don't see Richmond being very southern at all. Not now, not in 2007. At one point in time, sure it was a southern city, capital of the Confederacy. I know the history, I know about the Civil War. But that was then, this is now. Again I ask, what about Richmond is southern?
Richmond is definately a southern city, but I do kind of agree with you. Richmond is no way similar to Baltimore or DC, but Richmond itself is changing. Many of the old areas are being torn down and new buildings are going up. It reflects the economic growth and increasing wealth of the city.

When I first attended VCU in 1998, the surronding areas like Broad Street were pretty much run down, old, vacant buildings. Fastforward 10 years later, and now many new buildings are going up, and while they make the city look much more attractive, there is nothing southern about its architecture or style.

The lifestyle, while still laidback compared to many of the cities to the north, has increasingly picked up pace, especially in the city itself. In the city, I didn't hear that many people with accents to begin with. And I heard less and less accents in the suburbs as time went on. Richmond is changing for better or worse. 40 years ago, Vasinger said that NoVA was southern. In another 40 years, Richmond may no longer be southern as well.

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Old 09-11-2007, 11:21 AM
 
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I just don't get how people say Richmond (and the rest of Virginia for that matter) is not Dixie. They don't have to be in the Deep South to be considered Southern. Same with the northern half of Florida.
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Old 09-11-2007, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Richmond
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I just don't get how people say Richmond (and the rest of Virginia for that matter) is not Dixie. They don't have to be in the Deep South to be considered Southern. Same with the northern half of Florida.
Exactly !

I know some people will only include the South as the very southern tips of Mississippi or Alabama.

Shoot, why not just go all the way to Mexico. Anything north of Mexico isn't Dixie.
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Old 09-13-2007, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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Exactly !

I know some people will only include the South as the very southern tips of Mississippi or Alabama.

Shoot, why not just go all the way to Mexico. Anything north of Mexico isn't Dixie.
That is funny. I just posted about that - how my MD-born cousin and his NC-born, Southern-born-and-raised wife are both considered Yankees by his South Carolina coworkers. Depends on what part of the South or North you really are in.
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Old 09-13-2007, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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Im from NY and when I visit DC it seems southern to me. But I'd call it a northern City with some southern characteristics.

As to Virginia.....imo it was more southern back in the day. Nowadays I consider it in the south, but not in the same way I think of Georgia. Anyways why would anyone take offense to someone saying its not Southern. Actually I think it is a compliment. Why would you wanna be considered a toothless hillbilly rascist hick....which is what the majority of the South is.

The north its where it's at.
Even though I'd say DC and MD are definitely in the South, the cities of Washington and Baltimore have some very strong Northern characteristics. I'd say they're Southern cities with a very strong Northern personality to them. Delaware? I have no idea.

As for calling DC Northern being a compliment: Dude, you've probably been told this before, but here goes: not everybody in the South is a toothless, hillbilly racist - I wouldn't even say the majority is. Just like the majority of New Yorkers are not at all rude or obnoxious, as the stereotype goes! I hope neither is just wishful thinking, but there you have it.
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