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View Poll Results: Washington DC: Southern, Northern, or No Man's Land?
Northern City with Southern Overtones 13 33.33%
Southern city with Northern Overtones 4 10.26%
A hybrid of both 13 33.33%
No Man's Land- its neither duck nor pond. 9 23.08%
Voters: 39. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-13-2007, 09:11 AM
 
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Id say that DC and MD are definently the north with a few southern Characteristics
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Old 09-13-2007, 01:20 PM
 
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Virginia is not part of D.C., though\ IMO. Virginia is Virginia. D.C. is a seperate state.
Gee thanks Vasinger! But one does trip over an epiphany after years of crossing the Potomac and seeing that Welcome to Virginia sign.

Please tell me something else I do not know.
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Old 01-01-2008, 01:03 PM
 
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and on a related note, when do y'all think the DC area will surpass Chi-town in population?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combined_statistical_area

going to take a while...
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Old 01-01-2008, 01:09 PM
 
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Never. Because Chicago and Milwaukee will become a CSA very shortly and that will put the Chicago CSA to over 12 million.
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Old 01-01-2008, 01:13 PM
 
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Never. Because Chicago and Milwaukee will become a CSA very shortly and that will put the Chicago CSA to over 12 million.
milwaukee has 3 million people?

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Old 01-01-2008, 01:29 PM
 
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Id say that DC and MD are definently the north with a few southern Characteristics
What was i thinking? DC(and MD) is in the mid-atlantic, not the north or South!!!
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Old 01-01-2008, 04:43 PM
 
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milwaukee has 3 million people?

No, they have 2 million. With those 2 million added with the near 10 million that will be in Chicago by the next census, that would equal 12 million.
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Old 01-11-2008, 03:23 AM
 
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Default DC not Southern, more Northern

I grew up in Silver Spring MD, just outside of Washington DC. I'd like to point out that the DC area is not southern for the simple reasons of TERRAIN and LATITUDE. I've heard it mentioned that it gets rotten hot and muggy in summer. This is very true. It gets that way up to NYC and all along the coast to Florida. WINTERS are a different story. The GULF STREAM CURRENT cuts out around HATTERAS off the NC coast. Look at the coast line. It's JAGGED all along the Maryland and VIRGINIA coast lines, and extreme northern North Carolina. After that, its a SUBMERGED COAST LINE from the lower half of North Carolina all the way to FLORIDA. Winters in the UNSUBMERGED COASTLINES are significantly colder, probably by some ten degrees in winter. The warm Gulf Stream current doesn't have the warming effect beyond Cape Hatteras on north. It snows in DC every year and sometimes as history has proven, they get BELTED by snow by NOREASTERS. Sometimes as early as early NOVEMBER as in the VETERANS DAY STORM of 1987. If you took the latitude line across, you would hit OHIO near Cincinatti. I am using 39 degrees north Latitude, though DC center is slightly further south of 39 degrees Lat. SILVER SPRING is right smack at 39 degrees. Another point I'd like to mention is that DC sits along the banks of the POTOMAC river, in lower elevation as in surrounding suburban areas. They call DC "FOGGY BOTTOM", so you actually sink driving from MD into DC. DC is its own UNIQUE city, there are none like it in the USA. Washington DC was UNION CONTROLLED during the CIVIL WAR and remained that way through out the whole war. There were TWO northern battles fought during the Civil War. ANTIETAM and GETTYSBURG. Antietam is in Maryland, west of Washington DC. The Mason and Dixon line was not made to separate the North from the South. It was made in the 1700's to separate MD from PA royal families.

Coming from NYC, Washington DC may seem southern. Coming from ALABAMA, WDC may seem northern. Here is my version on the middle atlantic states...Lower New York and the big city is Mid Atlantic
Delaware, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Virginia too.

North East is all the New England States and Northern New York, maybe Northern PA.

The SOUTH EAST is the CAROLINA'S on down.

Maryland is MIDDLE ATLANTIC all the way. Philadelphia, Delaware, Southern Jersey has similar climate. If you go east all the way at the 39nth parallel, you hit JERSEY. So geographically speaking, there is nothing southern about Maryland. You have Christmas trees and what I call the most beautiful forest in the USA at SLIGO WOODS. My back yard. That is the prettiest foilage in the USA and I sure miss the hell out of it. I walk here in the woods in HOUSTON where I currently live and work, and I have to watch for the snakes constantly. It's January right now and there is no foilage change of colors. No four seasons. DC has 4 distinct seasons. I never knew what GRITZ was until I went to FLORIDA.
Thats my take.
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Old 01-11-2008, 03:42 AM
 
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Default Other thing to consider

The stars in the CONFEDERACY are how many??? 13 stars in the Confederacy. Of the BORDER STATES, KENTUCKY AND MISSOURI, though they didn't go with the union, were honorably given the stars in the Confederacy. They were recognized by the confederacy. Maryland was never recognized by the confederacy, and they gave General Lee's Army no support when Lee invaded Pennsylvania. Maryland is not in the confederate flag. So in terms of civil war, its a NORTHERN STATE. If you go to southern Maryland, you may find plenty of southerners there. But the major cities belong to the north in reality. BOSWASH. Megapolis encompassing towns from WASHINGTON to BOSTON. North EAST Corridor. And PHILADELPHIA, BOSTON, NYC, BALTIMORE and WASHINGTON DC even in RICHMOND I have seen those brick and mortar looking buildings. Not very common in the south due to climate I suppose. Try a pizza in the DC area, dam they are good, just like the submarine sandwiches. Once you hit the DC area, it gets as good as NYC for pizza, subs. I can't find a good pizza joint in Texas as good as up there. NO KRYSTAL burgers in WDC. BUT REMEMBER LITTLE TAVERN HAMBURGERS???
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Old 01-11-2008, 03:49 AM
 
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Default Sun Belt

that's probably a picture of the SUN BELT.

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Shoot, that map doesn't even include Kentucky and Tennessee. Its in no way shape or form an accurate depiction of the South.

Virginia IS the South. Its the Upper South . D.C. may be ambigious, but Virginia is a Southern state.

By the same token, You can visit Richmond, so I can show you the REAL South.
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